Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AmazHS


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The result was keep. Preponderance of policy arguments support keeping. (non-admin closure)  Onel 5969  TT me 15:07, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

AmazHS

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Article's subject does not appear to be notable upon a full review, (coverage in reliable sources is far less than significant, and the criteria of WP:ANYBIO are not met), including a google news search that returns 9 hits (0 of which cover the subject in detail). &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 18:11, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete a non-notable professional video game player.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:49, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment try looking up "amaz" instead. The previous title "AmazHS" wasn't really WP:COMMONNAME, so I've decided to change.--Prisencolin (talk) 08:12, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per John Pack Lambert. 2001:569:70DD:7500:39EA:19D8:DF90:EF4D (talk) 22:13, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Substantial & well-sourced. Besides, what does deletion accomplish? Acad Ronin (talk) 12:32, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * How so? Its barely larger than a stub and is littered with sources tagged as "unreliable" (and rightfully so, it seems to be largely sourced by non-reliable Youtube videos and brief mentions in listicle entries. Nothing that shows significant coverage. "Deletion accomplishes" upholding the concepts that shape the entire premise of the website. Sergecross73   msg me  16:04, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Delete - per my comment above, sourcing is extremely weak. Not convinced the subject meets the WP:GNG. Sergecross73   msg me  16:04, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I was skeptical of the initial sourcing provided, but far better sourcing has been dug up, so I feel it now meets the WP:GNG. Sergecross73   msg me  14:18, 13 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - Coverage in reliable sources such as Gamespot and Aftonbladet. - hahnch e n 17:49, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The GameSpot source is strictly an interview - a first party account. The Aftonbladet appears to be a... Swedish tabloid? Neither of these are third party reliable source accounts that help it meet the GNG. Sergecross73   msg me  16:32, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947  19:25, 2 March 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep coverage in reliable sources like VentureBeat, Kotaku and The Daily Dot  (note that article was written before Dotesports changed ownership).--Prisencolin (talk) 07:08, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 04:29, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per everyone voted "Delete". The sourcing is extremely weak and does not meet the GNG. 2001:569:70DD:7500:39EA:19D8:DF90:EF4D (talk) 20:14, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. This is an undisputedly notable streamer, currently the second most popular Hearthstone streamer. He is a co founder and captain of Team Archon, which he later left to join NRG eSports, which is sponsored by Shaquille O'Neal and other investors. He is currently a consultant for Blizzard and is the host and founder of Amaz Team Championships which had the largest prize pool of any non-Blizzard backed Hearthstone tournament with $250,000 in prizes.  The article notes: "Jason “Amaz” Chan, a popular broadcaster and player of the market-leading digital card game, announced a second season of the Amaz Team Championships. The first Amaz Team Championships had the largest prize pool of any non-Blizzard backed Hearthstone tournament with $250,000. But the second season isn’t guaranteed. Amaz has turned to Kickstarter to help fund the tournament, seeking a goal of $206,322 (that number only looks random because it’s converted from $1.6 million Hong Kong dollars). This time, the prize pool is only starting at $100,000. However, it can go up if the Kickstarter exceeds its goal. Like the first Amaz Team Championships, the second season will be an invitational event focusing on popular Hearthstone personalities, competitors, and streamers. “Whether it has been through their streams, video content, or tournament participation over the years, this is my way of saying ‘Thanks for being involved in the community!'” Amaz explained in the Kickstarter page"  The article notes: Adding to the sense that the game is struggling competitively, we also learned today that Jason “Amaz” Chen has left Team Archon, the organisation he co-founded, to join NRG eSports, which includes Shaquille O'Neal among its investors. As a result, the only remaining Archon player, 15 year-old phenom William “Amnesiac” Barton, will now become a free agent. The end of Archon comes as less of a shock, given that the organisation has been gravitating away from competitive play for some time, as indicated by the departures of Purple, Zalae, Orange and the former world champion Firebat.

Despite the predictability of Archon’s demise, the fact we now won’t see a second Archon Team League tournament is another blow to the Hearthstone as an esport. With its $250,000 prize pool and concurrent viewers peaking over 120k on Twitch, ATLC can lay strong claim to being the most successful Hearthstone event to date. That there’s now no sign of anything similar on the horizon, and continued question marks over the game’s competitive viability percolating within the community, ought to be of concern to Blizzard’s esports department. And that’s before we even get into talking about Yogg. </li> <li> The article notes: "Amaz, one of Hearthstone’s most popular streamers, just revealed the best Priest Legendary coming in Mean Streets Of Gadgetzan . Raza The Chained is a 5-mana 5/5 Priest Legendary that has the Battlecry: “if you have no duplicates in your deck, your Hero Power costs zero (0).” That is absolutely bonkers; the possibilities for this card are almost endless. Everyone complained how underpowered Priest was when Purify was announced and now the Hearthstone devs are doing everything they can to make Priest OP as hell."</li> <li> The article notes: "First up, we have Jason 'Amaz' Chan, the founder of Team Archon, one of the leading teams in competitive Hearthstone. 'Mark of Y'Shaarj gives a minion +2/+2 and is a bit more rewarding when it's cast on a beast, but outside of that isn't too interesting as it's very similar to Mark of the Wild,' Amaz noted. 'The most interesting part with this card, though, is that Blizzard is giving Druids another direction besides the standard Midrange Combo Druid that we are so used to seeing in ranked play and tournaments. This confirms the recent Blizzard interview that they wanted Druids to have beast synergies along with the Hunter class. The fact that you can always cast it on any minion unlike Demonfuse's mechanic makes it a little bit more flexible as well.'"</li> <li> The article notes: "The Houston Rockets have expanded to esports and gaming, hiring a new director of esports in the team's front office, the franchise announced Thursday. The new director is former Team Archon chief executive officer and Namecheap head of esports Sebastian Park. No further moves for the team have been determined, and it intends to explore all options before making a formal investment. The franchise, which has shown interest in esports before, hired Park as an experienced esports executive. He ran Archon, the esports team owned by famous Hearthstone professional player Jason 'Amaz' Chan, from 2015 to 2016. Park, 25, is a native of Los Angeles and a Yale graduate in cognitive science."</li> <li> The article notes: "Jason “Amaz” Chan DreamHack Prominent figures in the Hearthstone community usually fall into one of two categories, player or streamer. Jason “Amaz” Chan is all of that and more. Regularly attracting 35-50,000 viewers on his daily Twitch streams—despite broadcasting in the middle of the day—Amaz has become one of the most popular community streamers, partly because of his unique ability to make his audience feel involved in a team effort. His cries of “do we win?” have become one of the best known catchphrases in the sport. Chan also had a very successful 2014 in tournaments winning IEM Shenzen and the M-House Cup, and coming second in the Viagame House Cup and DreamHack Summer. He was the first signing for both Team ROOT and later Team Liquid before leaving to form his own team, Archon, where he snapped up world champion Firebat as his marquee signing.  His popularity shows no signs of waning, and with the formation of his own team Chan will only become a bigger and more important figure within Hearthstone in 2015."</li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Amaz to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". The strongest source is the latter from 2014 which list him as the top 10 most important figures in eSports since the game's release "regularly attracting 35-50,000 viewers". Valoem  talk   contrib  02:09, 13 March 2017 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Keep The sources in VentureBeat, Kotaku, The Daily Dot, PC Gamer, IBT Media, and ESPN found by Prisencolin and Valoem clearly demonstrate that Jason "Amaz" Chan passes Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 03:03, 13 March 2017 (UTC)


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