Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amber Marchese


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  18:24, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Amber Marchese

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The article is about a reality television star. Clearly not notable, only known for appearing on one show for one season. All the sources about the person are either tabloids or articles about the series. Mymis (talk) 16:18, 30 November 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete apparing in one reality television show is not enough for notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * Weak Keep. Google returns many news articles on her (mostly in entertainment new sources like Entertainment Tonight Only, People Magazine). There is coverage of her dealing with breast cancer, being diagnosed with Lyme Disease, an incident where she and husband were kicked off an airplane, and a resulting lawsuit (covered also by Fox News [], coverage of new reality show Marriage Boot Camp.  This is far more than typical for "one show for one season".  It sustained coverage for several years.  MB 04:49, 8 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, Marriage Boot Camp generated almost no news coverage, just several articles on websites such as Radar Online and Us Weekly. And other articles from People, Fox News and several others do not actually provide any information that is suitable for Wikipedia, just some allegations that about alleged/rumoured infidelity. She has talked about some diseases that she has/had but again nothing that we can actually put in the article. She has no books released, no charitable foundations, no public speeches that would make her an advocate. Mymis (talk) 19:10, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep She has appeared on 2 shows and has received media attention, however in saying that the page needs work. Also she blogged her story of battling cancer for People at: http://people.com/tv/real-housewives-of-new-jersey-amber-marchese-blogs-about-obamacare/ where she also speaks of insurance and issues involving it, clearly playing an advocate. Kelege (talk) 17:17, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, just because she wrote one blog entry about her disease, it does not really make her a notable advocate. She did appear on two reality series but for one season only. The Real Housewives would be quite notable for her (again, for one season only), while Marriage Boot Camp is not as it generated almost no news coverage. Mymis (talk) 18:58, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep She is covered in the News in RS over time for her participation in the shows, for her health issues and marital issues. It's not the kind of article I'm interested in cleaning up or adding to, however. Combing through the tabloids to get down to the RS is no fun. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:35, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and I meant to comment sooner, the article itself shows she's simply best known for the show itself, hence it comes with only that specific attention hence we have nothing else to form a convincing article. SwisterTwister   talk  22:15, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * Comment - The Keep votes themselves either simply say "But she participated in something!" or actually then acknowledge there's nothing to base the actual needed notability, thus not showing this is confirmed to be notable with actual substance. SwisterTwister   talk  04:34, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep While I have no interest in the subject, she has received consistent coverage in reliable and verifiable sources from around the world. Alansohn (talk) 15:37, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You must be more specific. "around the world"? "consistent coverage"? Mymis (talk) 16:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * A search of Google and Google News shows sources distinctly about her -- not just related to her reality show appearances -- coming from reliable and verifiable sources on both sides of the Atlantic over a period of years. You in turn must be more specific about the BS "Clearly not notable" as an excuse for deletion. Alansohn (talk) 17:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I was more specific in response to some of the comments above, please do read those. I did type her name into Google News, all I can see is articles on Radar Online, Us Weekly, and Daily Mail. She has not established herself outside Real Housewives where she was fired after only one season. She has talked about her diseases and stuff, but not enough to make her an advocate. Mymis (talk) 18:15, 27 December 2016 (UTC)


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