Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amber Renae


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  10:50, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Amber Renae

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Unsourced. No independent, reliable secondary sources referenced (as either inline refs or external links); none found following WP:BEFORE. Not notable. Fails WP:GNG. WP:REFUNDed after WP:PROD deletion. Ryk72 talk 13:49, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:09, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:09, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete an undersourced article on a fashion model.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not a single one of the external links (the nearest there is in the article to references) is substantial coverage in an independent reliable source, and most of them are neither substantial coverage nor independent reliable sources. My searches for better sources failed to turn up anything of any use whatever. It is perfectly clear that this person does not come within a thousand miles of Wikipedia's notability standards. (In addition, virtually all of the content of the article is not mentioned at all in any of the externally linked sources, so if the article were kept it would have to be reduced to a stub with almost no information in it.) JBW (talk) 22:39, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


 * @Johnpacklambert: the word Model has been removed as it has nothing to do with this biography


 * Keep The person in question is currently appearing on a US Television Series, Dream Life https://www.fyi.tv/shows/dream-life, on top tier network FYI

Also currently airing on Apple TV: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/dream-life/umc.cmc.61pxq42j34ok8jblddfdgo7i7

and on Hulu: https://tvgrapevine.com/2020/08/dream-life-now-streaming-and-airing/

https://www.ontvtonight.com/guide/watch/tv-show/SH035637830000/dream-life.html https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/dream-life/episode-1-season-1/city-of-angels/1461902/

The show also stars A-list celebrities such as Caitlyn Jenner https://theblast.com/c/serena-dc-reality-show-dream-life-hot-photos-stuns-fyi-hulu-pictures-positive-tv-show https://perezhilton.com/dream-life-reality-tv-show-serena-dc-australia/

Previously she has starred in Project Runway (Global TV Series)

https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/amber-renae-from-project-runway-australia-arrives-for-the-news-photo/96432535?adppopup=true https://www.newswire.com/amberrenae-com-the-new-website/62502 http://www.ragtrader.com.au/archive/project-take-off https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/marriage/former-reality-tv-star-engaged-by-getting-down-on-one-knee-and-proposing-to-herself/news-story/ddb98b61f46c5cd53f1b3bf6e84c9975 https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/image-gallery/6ea8b05de173a99ed0b7a2ace67b2c6b?sv=9ec1ea3fdf92ab446a788515a5145084

And has been the host of International Network Fashion TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ishHbi8PK9Y interviewing A-list Australian Celebrities and Designers including Melissa George and Lara Worthington:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIKvX9tW3SQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5nHhxQAMD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD5mlSOuPGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Xb3L5MgrE https://au.news.yahoo.com/i-blog-pip-christmass-i-br-aurelio-costarella-lights-up-festival-10302178.html https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/amber-renae-attends-the-swarovski-show-during-mercedes-benz-news-photo/483495525?adppopup=true

I will find additional sources that meet the guidelines.

You can view her IMDB profile verifying the above: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3576462/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

And is mentioned as being Notable by other Wikipedia pages here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Queensland_people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fashion_designers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Runway_Australia_(season_2) Arisonwiki2 (talk) 05:17, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * See WP:NOTINHERITED, appearing on notable shows, or with notable persons, does not confer notability. None of the links above have reliable, independent, significant coverage of the article subject. They are passing mentions only. Per WP:THREE, can you please provide the 3 best references which provide reliable, independent, significant coverage? - Ryk72 talk 22:18, 24 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - I have added some new references and removed promotional information. The page now looks balanced and meet WP:GNG and WP:ENT. Brett (talk) 17:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: There is an active editor whose account is named "Brett", but the above comment was not added by that account; it was added anonymously by an editor using the IP address 112.79.64.8, which has made no edits not related to this discussion. JBW (talk) 20:55, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


 * With the exception of Ragtrader, which is borderline, none of these are reliable sources. With the exception of the non-reliable Russian language site, toplichnosti.com, none of these have significant coverage. - Ryk72 talk 22:18, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:06, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The article has now been edited by someone who knows how to format references, rather than just presenting them as external links, but the references provided are no better than they were when I commented above: not a single one of them is substantial coverage in an independent reliable source, and most of them are neither substantial coverage nor independent reliable sources. As for the long list of links above, even a glance at the list, without following the links, shows that many of them are YouTube, Wikipedia, newswire (a press release site), gettyimages (which sells photographs, and does not give substantial information about anything or anyone), and other types of sites which are of no value at all in establishing notability, and a closer look shows that none of them are in fact suitable. I even found that some of the linked pages don't mention Amber Renae at all. Bombarding the discussion with dozens of links none of which shows notability does not add up to showing notability. Statements such as "The show also stars A-list celebrities such as..." shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the whole concept of notability: thousands of nonentities have appeared in the same film, play, show, or event as highly notable people, and that does not make them notable. JBW (talk) 21:11, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‑Scottywong | [babble] ||  06:24, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - If the best hit I can find on a Google News search is a trivial passing mention in perezhilton.com, we should not have an article per WP:BLPSOURCES. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  09:12, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


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