Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amber Tang


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The result was no consensus.  —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 00:11, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Amber Tang

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Fails WP:NACTOR. Very, very early career. Done nothing. Refs are PR.  scope_creep Talk  19:38, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom.🚂 Loco Motive 207- AMERICA  🚂  20:08, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women,  and Hong Kong. Shellwood (talk) 21:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Too soon. Much of the coverage that is out there is about her boyfriend, not her. Pika voom  Talk 13:59, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Notability (people) says: People are presumed if they have received significant coverage in   that are,  of each other, and.  Sources      The article notes: "Twenty-five-year-old Deng Zhuoyin (Amber) was the runner-up and the most photogenic young lady in Hong Kong in 2018. After signing the contract with TVB, she mainly filmed variety shows. The currently broadcast "Stride" is her maiden drama, playing Tiffany, one of the newspaper's members, who is Yao Ziling's Colleagues, because the main force is the company's drama, so there is no need to run. After the selection of Miss Hong Kong, Amber also went to the training class to learn acting skills with Luo Guanlan, but this time the drama was officially filmed, and it turned out that going to class was very different from practice."   <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Amber Tang to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 11:02, 8 July 2022 (UTC) </li></ul> Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TigerShark (talk) 03:01, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
 * Amber Tang received significant coverage in 2018 for competing in Miss Hong Kong 2018, where she was first runner-up. She received significant coverage in 2021 when acted in the TV series The Runner (Hong Kong TV series) and received a graduate degree in architecture. She received significant coverage in 2022 when she acted in the TV series Brutally Young 2.0. The sustained significant coverage in reliable sources demonstrates Amber Tang meets Notability (people) and Notability. Cunard (talk) 11:02, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Cunard has demonstrated notability. CT55555 (talk) 19:23, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ARS member.   scope_creep Talk  20:09, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * scope creep, don't use participation in a WikiProject as a personal attack, as if participation meant an editor's opinion should be dismissed. Keep your differences of opinion civil. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:27, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The fact that Cunard provided sources in Chinese, is telling. Hong Kong, unlike China, has a very strong English media scene. Many of these sources are gossipy and some cover her in relation to her much more famous boyfriend. For example: Oriental Sunday (source 5 in list)'s byline: "Deng Zhuoyin graduated with a master's degree in architecture and her boyfriend Guo Zihao attended the graduation ceremony in a low-key manner...". Pika voom  Talk 06:40, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I suspect that most of them are similar. Ref 8 for example describes how she is becoming popular and she was invited to attend the 2019 Miss Hong Kong contest promotion event and was interviewed. Looking at each of the each of the references, they all like early stage PR.   scope_creep Talk  14:21, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The sources I linked are all reliable sources that provide significant coverage about the subject. I do not agree that they are "early stage PR" or unreliable sources. The sources show she is a notable actress who has received sustained coverage over multiple years from Hong Kong media. That the sources are all Chinese-language sources does not mean an actress who is acting in primarily (if not completely) Chinese-language dramas and shows is non-notable. From Notability, "Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language." I will discuss three of the sources in more detail.<ol><li>The 2022 Hong Kong Economic Times article notes that Amber Tang was a 2018 Miss Hong Kong contestant. In the competition, she received the runner-up award and the most photogenic award. The article notes that in 2013 when she took the Hong Kong Diploma of Secondary Education Examination, she received the 5** score on four subjects. The subject attended the University of Hong Kong, where she studied architecture. She received the "2017 Asian Construction Award" in the student division. Upon graduating in 2017, she joined the industry as an "architectural trainee". The article notes that she received numerous pieces of negative news coverage about dating the actor Arnold Kwok who was her cohost on Entertainment Everyone and who media reports thought had a girlfriend at the time, but both she and Kwok said they were each single at the time. The article notes that she enrolled again at the University of Hong Kong in 2019 and received a master's degree in December 2022. During her studies, she acted in a drama. The article discusses her performance on the TVB drama The Ultimate Confession 2.0 After Eighteen Years in which she plays Shen Xiaotong, Gong Jiaxin's 14-year-old sister.</li><li>The 2022 am730 article provides biographical background about how she is 27 years old, how she received 5** on four DSE subjects, and how she studied architecture at the University of Hong Kong. The article notes that while being employed as architectural trainee, she competed in the 2018 Miss Hong Kong, where she received the runner-up and photogenic awards. The article notes that she largely performs on variety shows and in 2020 began receiving chances to act on dramas. She acted in the dramas Treading the World II, Benevolent Doctor under the Stars, and The King of Fighters. The article notes that her most recent role is as Shen Xiaotong, the 14-year-old sister of Shen Yue, in the widely watched drama "The Ultimate Confession 2.0 After Eighteen Years". Netizens found that "zero violation of the character's appearance" and were "impressed by her acting skills". The article describes how she was able to successfully depict "the repressed guilt" of her character who had stabbed Queenie using a glass bottle which impressed netizens.</li><li>The 2021 Mingpao Weekly article notes that Amber Tang is 25 years old and received the runner-up and photogenic awards at Miss Hong Kong 2018. The article notes that she inked a contract with TVB, where her work largely has been on variety shows. The article notes that her first drama is Stride, where her role is Tiffany, an employee of the newspaper. Once the Miss Hong Kong competition ended, she received acting lessons from the actress and instructor Lo Koon Lan. When she started acting, she found it difficult to play a scene where she had to shout and cry in front of her boyfriend's family. The article notes that "she played the role of a girl who committed suicide by jumping off a building" and describes the preparations she made for that role. The article said that she was enrolled in the University of Hong Kong's Department of Architecture full-time two-year master's program and would be graduating that year. The article notes that her boyfriend is Guo Zihao who was her cohost on "Entertainment Everyone".</li></ol>Cunard (talk) 08:10, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment So she got 5** in her exams and that makes her notable? Is that it? All it is PR. She has nothing to warrant an article. Are you getting paid for this? That is the only reason I can think of that you make such absurd and mediocre statements to save this article.   scope_creep Talk  08:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The information about how she did on the Hong Kong Diploma of Secondary Education Examination is part of the biographical background about her. The rest of the article explains how she became notable: as an actress and as the runner-up in Miss Hong Kong. I do not consider any of this information from reliable sources to be PR. I have no conflict of interest with the subject. As suggested above, please do not make personal attacks. Cunard (talk) 10:23, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cunard. Clearly passes WP:GNG and I see personal attack from scope_creep. Pls stop personal attack! If you continue doing it, you will be block from editing. Thanks Taung Tan (talk) 16:42, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


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