Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amelia Brightman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 14:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Amelia Brightman

 * – ( View AfD View log  •  )

Nice-looking article. Dramatic photo. Not a notable musician, not by a long shot. Easily fails WP:MUSIC. Has never released an album. Has never toured, except as a backing vocalist in the band. Her sister is notable; that doesn't count. Article looks like the kind of article a notable musician would have; don't be fooled. Herostratus (talk) 03:24, 17 July 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't speak to the discography, but I certainly challenge the verifiability of much of the biography. I tried to find sources.  (None are cited.)  The only person saying anything at all about albums is this person xyrself, writing on MySpace.  We all know that people writing on MySpace about their wonderful forthcoming achievements that haven't quite yet reached the world is something to be taken with a large sackful of salt.  I couldn't even find that much to back up the content about pseudonyms.  (The BBC's biography was sourced from this article, notice.)  About all that the world has independently written about this person in terms of biography seems to be, from what I can turn up, is that xe is a sibling of someone else.   Even the full date of birth doesn't seem to exist anywhere outside of Wikipedia and Wikipedia-sourced information.  Uncle G (talk) 04:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment, I found some sources abroad:    . Nuujinn (talk) 10:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete - she might be kinda close to notability given her many contributions to other people's works (mostly her sister, nonetheless) and the sources located by Nuujinn above might be worthy of argument over whether they're reliable and significant enough. (I'm undecided on that particular sub-issue). But it appears that Amelia has not been noticed enough for her own achievements. She could possibly be mentioned briefly at Sarah's article. Till then, Amelia needs to gain more notice as an independent performer, not just on her own MySpace page, and that forthcoming solo album needs to become a reality. -- D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 17:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete – Mere association with those who satisfy WP:MUSIC is not enough to justify an independent article when there is no other claim to notability. – Smyth\talk 16:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete, I find myself in agreement with DOOMSDAYER520's evaluation. -- Nuujinn (talk) 23:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.