Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/America/Indiana/Indianapolis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of tz database time zones. Sarahj2107 (talk) 14:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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I am also nominating the following related pages:



My research failed to turn up significant coverage in reliable third-party sources, and as such all of these articles appear to fail the general notability guideline. I am unable to find a more applicable notability policy or precedent for either keeping or deleting articles over time zone database locations, though many other such articles exist, so this is somewhat of a test case. Since they appear to fail the GNG, I recommend deletion or else redirection to either Time in Indiana or their geographic localities (such as Indianapolis, Indiana). Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 21:31, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions.  Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 21:42, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions.  Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 21:42, 29 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment. The list of these tz database time zones is at, appropriately, List of tz database time zones. I'm not sure what to do with the individual listings. The tz database is unquestionably notable. The list of zones it defines, also not a problem. Individual content for each zone? I'm not sure. It seems unlikely that they'll have specific, GNG-passing discussions on their own. But on the other hand, Wikipedia is a gazetteer, and surely this is a gazetteer function? For the record, there's this big list of Indiana-specific ones because the tz database tracks regions that have had timezone changes during the Unix epoch, and timezone management in Indiana is a mess. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 21:57, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I totally agree that the database and list of individual zones are notable. I'm just not convinced that the individual zones should have articles themselves (usually). There does not appear (at least with these zones) to be enough depth of coverage to justify each having their own article; what little coverage there is seems to be fleeting at best, and not enough to produce more than a stub or start class article at best. The gazetteer function can be accomplished by a better formatting of the main list article, with the coordinates and associated location for each zone being linked and the list being broken down into more manageable, sortable sections by region (America, Europe, Asia, etc). I would not be opposed to redirecting the zone articles to either "Time in _____" (in this case Time in Indiana), the associated location for the zone, or to the main list of zones in place of deleting the pages if consensus is that retaining the pages would enhance the gazetteer function. Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 22:25, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * This is quite an interesting find, Ks0stm. :) I think the proposal to redirect these to articles like Time in Indiana sounds like a good solution, but at least some of these time zones cover multiple states. How do we handle that?  A  Train ''talk 21:31, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * In a Magical Christmastime World, I'd like to support retention of these tz time zone articles, to be honest, along with the specific history of why they're each necessary. That would often provide some overlap with (for example) Time in Indiana, but they're not precisely the same thing. I'm simply unconvinced that we can construct such an article without original research. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 21:44, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to List of tz database time zones. Given the lack of secondary sources I think the nominator's reasoning is sound, but if there's a parent article why don't we just redirect there instead of deleting? Like Squeamish Ossifrage, I would also love for all of these articles to be fleshed out with time zone ephemera but I guess we're not going to get that. :)  A  Train ''talk 16:27, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yellow Dingo&#160;(talk) 00:13, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect All to List of tz database time zones. Having a separate page for each obscure entry is overkill and WP:UNDUE.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:44, 15 October 2016 (UTC).


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