Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/America: Land of the Free, Home of the Genetically Altered


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 04:58, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

America: Land of the Free, Home of the Genetically Altered

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Non-notable book, no 3rd party sources that I can find. Actually there are is some news covering it. (St. Joseph Catholic School students write book and High school students publish novel, very similar articles, containing many identical parts) but according to that news, the book hasn't even been released for sale yet. So this is not appropriate per WP:CRYSTAL: "Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements". Author declined proposed deletion without comment.--  Atlantima  ~ ✿ ~ ( talk ) 21:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arkansas-related deletion discussions.   Atlantima  ~ ✿ ~ ( talk ) 21:40, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.   Atlantima  ~ ✿ ~ ( talk ) 21:40, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  22:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL but good luck to them, hope to see it garner notability once published. As the book has now been published, CRYSTAL does not apply. But it is still WP:TOOSOON at the moment. Keri (talk) 18:13, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep The novel has been published as of last Friday, April 26, 2013 | here and the publishing company affirmed that it will be available through Amazon and Barnes and Noble within the next few weeks. There have been a couple news articles on it, and several more are set to come out in the next month (printed and televised). The project has been gaining interest for several reasons: the students who wrote it are fairly young (around 16); the school which they attend is closing at the end of the year; and they are the only teenagers in their area of Arkansas to publish a novel together. There are reporters and many people in the area who have been asking me for information because it is difficult to find or the news agencies haven't released it yet, so I created this article. I've never edited on wiki before, much less created a page, but I would like to propose that you at least leave the page up for a month and re-evaluate the situation then. As per Wiki's request to identify my interest in the article, I am the teacher who oversaw the project. Cheyer2 (talk) 15:59, 29 April 2013 (UTC)Cheyer2
 * From your comments ("many people in the area who have been asking me for information") it appears that you are personally connected with this book. I advise you to read Best practices for editors with close associations. Your book is not notable yet. If it becomes notable in the future then it may get an article. Feel free to create a userspace draft if you really feel that notability is imminent and do not want to lose your work.-- Atlantima  ~ ✿ ~ ( talk ) 17:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I read through that article before I created the page and adhered to its contents. I think you'll find that the contents on the page are purely objective. Because 'notable' is so arbitrary, can you offer some concrete advice?Cheyer2 (talk) 19:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)Cheyer2
 * I've replied on your talk page with some pointers. Keri (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I commend you for seeking out and reading that guide. However, I don't see any indication that you really followed the advice: namely, making a userspace draft, making a request at WP:RA, and formally declaring your conflict of interest. The book sounds interesting and I hope you find success with it, but unfortunately not every good book/movie/video game/person/whatever can merit a Wikipedia article. -- Atlantima  ~ ✿ ~ ( talk ) 21:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Good luck with the book, but some local coverage is insufficient to meet inclusion criteria. -- Whpq (talk) 16:34, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - This book not meet any of Wikipedia's notability criteria for books at WP:Notability (books) (the relevant notability criteria for this AfD). Specifically:
 * - It has not "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself."
 * - It has not "won a major literary award."
 * - It has not "been considered by reliable sources to have made a significant contribution to a significant motion picture, or other art form, or event or political or religious movement."
 * - It is not "the subject of instruction at multiple grade schools, high schools, universities or post-graduate programs in any particular country."
 * - Unfortunately the book's authors are not yet "so historically significant that any of [their] written works may be considered notable."
 * Don't worry, this isn't a big deal. None of the books I wrote are on Wikipedia either. Best of luck with your book! -   t  u coxn \ talk 22:48, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. This self-published book was only released just over a week ago. Amazon.com is offering the book for sale but has not even established a sales rank for it yet. There has been some limited local coverage of the authors' achievement in publishing the book, but not enough to establish notability yet. Alternatively, userfy the article so that the article creator can continue to work on it and add the future news coverage of the book if indeed it receives such coverage. The article could be moved back to the mainspace at a later date if notability were clearly established. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.