Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Airlines Flight 31 (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that this incident does not have a lasting impact sufficient to overcome WP:NOTNEWS concerns Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:20, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

American Airlines Flight 31
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Fails WP:N and WP:NOTNEWS. List of American Airlines accidents and incidents already lists this incident, which should suffice.

Also note that the previous AfD is unrelated to this incident. Sky Warrior  03:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions.  Sky  Warrior  03:19, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  Sky  Warrior  03:21, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS. Contemporaneous daily news coverage in newspapers (and daily stock-price fluctuations) are not sufficient for general notability. In any case, it shouldn't have this article title; coverage under List of American Airlines accidents and incidents is sufficient IMO but I'd entertain a rename proposal. Power~enwiki (talk) 20:54, 22 May 2017 (UTC) (as amended)
 * Keep The incident involved the FBI and Air Force and was covered by many major media outlets including ABC, CNN, NBC, WaPo, and USA Today. I believe that the article is sufficiently notable right now, and will become more notable over the next few days or weeks as the story continues to develop. --Posted by Pikamander2   (Talk)  at 06:13, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 *  Speedy Keep It was a passenger altercation, just like other airlines, so why delete if one article has a similar incident like this, like United Express Flight 3411, that the result was a keep? I believe that it is notable, and it should be kept.174.52.246.30 (talk) 12:29, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - No injuries or fatalities. Just another crazy guy being stupid. Slow media day so they jump at another possible airline controversy where there is none. Story died and so should this article. WP:NOTNEWS  Gtstricky Talk or C 13:22, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * If you wish to comment on this entry, please be respectful and don't bite at other users.204.113.195.150 (talk) 17:00, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * And lets all assume good faith also. Gtstricky Talk or C 18:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep The incident received significant coverage and had a lasting impact due in part to the effect on the company's stock price, not to mention the rest of the fallout. Passes WP:GNG. Smartyllama (talk) 13:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * What effect did it have on the stock? And what other fallout?  Gtstricky Talk or C 14:32, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The incident dropped some stocks from the airline, because the flight disturbance made some people upset of the behavior of what the passenger did, and if the incident might occur in the future. Other fallout is that the Homeland security is going to monitor flights seriously and with caution.GoMan195531 (talk) 17:06, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it dropped stock, but that would happen with any incident, no matter how minor it is. That's not a reason to keep an article, and chances are good stock will recover. As for the fallout, Homeland Security is already monitoring flights with caution, as they should be, well before this incident occured. They may heighten security for a little bit, but that's typical for an incident like this. All in all, this appears to just be a run-of-the-mill occurrence that happens occasionally, no different from other incidents that people have forgot has happened. Seriously, a mention on List of American Airlines accidents and incidents is enough, and unless you can convince me otherwise, I will stand by that point. Sky  Warrior  18:42, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep There are other flights which had disturbance that occurred, and this is one of them. Not a lot of these are found on Wikipedia, so I think we should keep the article, because it is notable, and might be improved more sufficient when more information is available towards the public.GoMan195531 (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTNEWS exists for a reason. Just because "not a lot of these are found on Wikipedia" is not a valid reason to keep an article. Sky  Warrior  18:42, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep Part of the real or perceived war on terror, which needs to be documented for future reference.--Petebutt (talk) 12:20, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete: AS per WP:NOTNEWS, total non incident. The only reason it even made the news is the total over-reaction by authorities. - Ahunt (talk) 13:12, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- no lasting impact or societal significance. Let's reserve such articles for real terrorist acts, such as the Manchester bombing. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:14, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes  02:32, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:NOTNEWS. Comatmebro  User talk:Comatmebro 02:59, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: To discuss whether to redirect this to List of American Airlines accidents and incidents in case of deletion.
 * Delete minor incident that will soon be forgotten. Notnews. MB 15:57, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:58, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete This is not the type of incident worthy of a stand alone article. Samf4u (talk) 13:07, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  So Why  12:07, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge into List of American Airlines accidents and incidents where possible. Class 455  ( talk |stand clear of the doors!)  12:27, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. All the relevant info is already in List of American Airlines accidents and incidents, we don't need a separate article. Sario528 (talk) 16:37, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per the arguments above - I see no need for a redirect either. YSSYguy (talk) 23:02, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete unruly passenger is nothing notable. Wykx  (talk) 21:47, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. It think WP:NOTNEWS does not apply automatically, as there it is only written routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities, and "announcements" I understand as announcements of the planned events like sport events, or concerts. Audriusa (talk) 16:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It very much applies; what you stated is prefaced by the words "for example", which means it's not exclusive to just those instances. Sky  Warrior  17:22, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete This does not deserve an article it is just run of the mill disturbance Jkd4855 (talk) 01:55, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete disturbance by passengers is not that rare or noteworthy for a stand-alone article. MilborneOne (talk) 17:57, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.