Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Bullnese


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The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 09:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

American Bullnese

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Delete Non-notable type of dog; the only secondary references I could find are in this gigantic list of mutt portmanteaus and a brief entry in this book. Google Scholar doesn't turn up any results. Most of the google results are directly related to Bullnese breeders or are on sites that probably scraped the name from Wikipedia.  T K K  bark !  19:06, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Do Not Delete My opinion would be that the secondary, published reference under 30 American Dog Breeds in this book would apply to notability and secondary source independent of the author or breeder. The appearance in a list present in another book would serve as a tertiary reference, albeit small, in another independent, published source.  There are also multiple web references independent of breeders or web scrapers.  These include the CKC registry, pethealthandcare.com, and dogster.com.  A quick reading of the articles on those websites would exclude them from being simple site-scrapers. -On a side note, I was born and raised in Maine in the Bath/Brunswick area.  Beautiful area up there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LibbyJax (talk • contribs) 19:34, 3 January 2013 (UTC)  — LibbyJax (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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 * Delete - not notable, fails WP:GNG.  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  18:35, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Do Not Delete On further review of the previous book source, another mention of the American Bullnese as the #2 dog out of 34 for couch potatoes along with the previous reference as one of 30 American dog breeds should contribute to the notability requirements. -On a side note, I do not feel the SPA tag applies.  I am a first-time editor trying to publish an informative and neutral article about a dog breed I am passionate about.  Since the beginning, I've felt marginalized by long-time editors or moderators and this entire process has left a bad enough taste in my mouth to discourage future contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LibbyJax (talk • contribs) 21:51, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:27, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep per LibbyJax. Article looks good enough.  Chipper2Lews (talk) 17:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - The book cited as a secondary source above was written/published by authors without any notable dog expertise. Specifically, Sandra Choron appears to be a publisher of books of lists .  A reputable secondary source should at the very least be written/published by someone who has notable experience in the area in question.   While I could buy the argument that the American Bullnese is a "breed in development", the validation of this "breed" on Wikipedia is biased.  The breed club was started and is still currently maintained by the "breed" founder, and it is not recognized by any reputable breed registry anywhere in the world.  Recognition by the CKC is not a reliable way to tell what is considered a "Breed" as they allow registration of non-purebred "miscellaneous" dogs.  I have mentioned this on the List of Dog Breeds discussion page - perhaps there should be a separate page for Breeds In Development, which could also include the Labradoodle/Australian Labradoodle which also has official breed clubs a dedicated base of breeders working towards a breed standard. Opendestiny (talk) 20:03, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
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