Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Football (EP)


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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 17:02, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

American Football (EP)

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Poor refs. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NALBUM. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 17:51, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Updated article to include sources. 86.41.88.42 (talk) 22:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 17:51, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete (or redirect to American Football (band) if admins think the article title is a viable search term). Unfortunately the new sources do not help. The first footnote is a fake reference to a non-existent AllMusic review, and the second is to a basic retail listing. The current third and fourth references are to general introductions to the band's history in which this EP is mentioned briefly but with no critical analysis. The EP received no significant and reliable notice on its own terms. The band got noticed later but this EP remains too obscure for Wikipedia. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 23:31, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The first footnote was not a "fake" reference to a "non-existant" review. It was the result of both an editing typo (hence why the rating stars were not showing) and me working off an old template. It seems that AllMusic has changed it's linking system in the last couple of years, rendering the old template useless. The Allmusic review is very much extant and I have since fixed that link. I have absolutely no interest in providing fake reviews. I thought I'd just clear that up.
 * Also, I don't know if the existance of an Allmusic review affects your judgement, but I would argue this EP is no more obscure than a lot of other early unsuccessful releases by notable artists that haven't had their articles on Wikipedia removed eg. the first 3 releases of My Bloody Valentine (created 15 years ago) which not unlike this EP have little but an AllMusic review and a few passing references to support their significance.86.41.88.42 (talk) 01:52, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the accusation of a fake AllMusic review; you are correct about the change to their linking system. However, the review is still just one paragraph with little critical analysis, so my vote remains the same. Regarding your point about similar albums, see WP:OTHERSTUFF. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 01:38, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to American Football (band): Barely found anything about the EP. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 05:35, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:59, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: per above. I don't think a redirect would be useful, given that the band seems to name every single release "American Football." (WTH?)   Ravenswing      01:31, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


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