Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Global University School of Medicine (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 11:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

American Global University School of Medicine
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PROD declined. I think this is a NN degree mill, failing WP:ORG. Gnews, gbooks, gscholar turned up nada. Lots of web hits, but they look mostly like advertising and directory listings, i.e. not significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject. Ray Talk 01:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 01:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 01:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Isn't it notable as a diploma mill? Hairhorn (talk) 02:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I went through seven pages of Google search and pretty much got advertising sites, and Wiki mirrors. The only credible sources I got were Univ of Arkansas, clearly stating that students from here are ineligible to transfer/do their residency at their school, Maine gov website saying this school isn't recognized and a Korean site saying that this place is unaccredited (courtesy the Wiki list which it linked to). Don't know if this is sufficient for notability, two sources seem reliable for sure. For a diploma mill, they've been able to stay under the radar for sure, no hits on GNews. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 04:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I don't doubt they exist, and they probably should be on a list of degree mills somewhere on Wikipedia. I just don't think they're notable enough for an article of their own. Ray  Talk 03:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. I find a number of sources for American Global University, which appears to also be a degree mill, but there seems to be no connection between the two.  I find nothing more than incidental mentions of this "medical school".  No hits in Google News, Books, or Scholar.  Nothing on Lexis-Nexis.  Cool3 (talk) 04:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep It seems to actually exist. The school actually is listed at the IMED and gives the forllowing information . Though I note with respect to their listings that "The International Medical Education Directory (IMED) is a free web-based resource for accurate and up-to-date information about international medical schools that are recognized by the appropriate government agency in the countries in which they are located. The agency responsible for this recognition in most countries is the Ministry of Health. FAIMER is not an accrediting agency. Listing of a medical school in IMED does not denote recognition, accreditation, or endorsement by FAIMER." .  It claims to be legally incorporated in Belize. It certainly does at least have a web site  It claims as dean Dr. Martin Soudah, a graduate of St. George's University--and I just found on google an interesting legal case in the Belize Supreme Court where someone tries without success to extract a statement of the financial affairs of him and the school. It claims affiliation with Antillean Advents Hospital, Curacao .   I also note their student forum, including the threads .  . Some of the website claims copyright as  Copyright © 2008 American Global University, so it may be affiliated.  If this is a total fraud  it's a very elaborate one. I think we have an obligation to report on real but unaccredited schools, making of course their status clear.    DGG (talk) 04:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Niteshift36 (talk) 06:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Its a diploma mill. The website is set up so it looks the school actually exists, but it does not. One of the pictures on the website claims to be one of their dormitories. In reality, its a police station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megapoul (talk • contribs) 09:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
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