Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Idol Underground


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, further relisting unlikely to generate much more discussion. lifebaka++ 14:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

American Idol Underground

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Contested Prod. Original deletion reason:article fails to assert why this internet radio station is notable. Lacks 3rd party verifiable references.

Procedural nomination. Gwernol 09:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.   -- WilliamH (talk) 14:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep . Arguably notable web site but article needs significant changes. Apparently this web site formerly licensed the "American Idol" name and received news coverage. Washington Post But it's no longer called American Idol Underground; it's now Artist Underground, and all references to American Idol have been removed from the site. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Notability requires multiple sources. As it is they've changed their address and website name so in effect old news coverage is meaningless because it really isn't about the same site anymore. For the article to be kept there needs to be another article presented and it would have to be a historical article as that site is now closed.--221.143.25.19 (talk) 02:46, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * But the article could be revised to focus on the site as it was when it was more notable, as opposed to covering the site as it is now when it is arguably less notable. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That is my point about a "historical article" it should be written in the past tense. There still needs to be another source though to establish past notability. If the Washington post article is the only reliable source, this might be better merged to the american idol main article.--221.143.25.19 (talk) 05:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am withdrawing my recommendation because the title of the article has changed since this AfD began. I would have preferred that any move of the article be delayed until after the AfD was completed. No opinion.
 * Notability is not temporary, any references to 'American Idol Underground' should be past tense but references including that name do show notability. The article should refer to it's current name and any references to 'American Idol Underground' should be part of it's history.--Rtphokie (talk) 12:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

--Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep This appears to be more than just a fan website, it's pretty much a small media company at this point. I'm finding articles in the New York Times, Canadian Business, in addition to the Washington Post article mentioned above.  Also there are a bunch of press releases about some partnerships with Sony.--Rtphokie (talk) 12:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * very weak Delete OK, while this meets our notability precedents it fails the smell test and the common sense test. Do something first.--CastAStone//₵₳$↑₳₴₮ʘ№€ 13:10, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  JForget  23:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tawker (talk) 05:51, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Um, how many times are we going to relist this? This looks like a case of no consensus to me. --Rtphokie (talk) 12:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Agree. Someone should close this as such.--CastAStone//₵₳$↑₳₴₮ʘ№€ 04:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep In-depth coverage in the New York Times and other publications certainly points to notability and notability is not temporary. -Dravecky (talk) 22:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.