Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Lion (miniseries)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  06:45, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

American Lion (miniseries)

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HBO decided not go forward with the series. BoogerD (talk) 02:55, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source to confirm this? (you probably should've provided one before tagging the article). - the WOLF  child  03:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)


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 * There hasn't been a single update on the production in over two years. At this point the page should either be deleted or moved into draft space because it is clear that the secondary sources are outdated. The first mentions that the miniseries was "set to start production next year" meaning 2016. The second  mentions that Phillip Noyce would direct a few episodes and that the series would "air on HBO next year" meaning 2017. We are now in the middle of May in 2018 (over two years after that last article) and there has been exactly 0 updates in the interim. It is very likely the production died during development as is common. This issue is worthy of at least a discussion. Oh and sidenote, Sean Penn was quoted recently two months ago as saying that he was thinking of quitting acting  for what its worth. – BoogerD (talk) 04:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * So, no source confirming "decided not go forward with the series.".


 * Delete per nom. Announced series does not satisfy GNG. --  Wikipedical (talk) 04:32, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable since it has never officially entered production and any content is based on speculation. sixty nine   • whaddya want? •  04:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - the article is sourced and there is nothing supporting the nominator's opinion that the HBO cancelled the series. This shouldn't have been nominated in the first place. - the WOLF  child  06:21, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 06:46, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd agree with you that there might not be proof that the production is currently dead. I have no article to support that and I shouldn't have sounded so definitive in my nomination. However, there are other issues at play here as well. If the production has not had an update in over two years then Notability must be taken into consideration. I'm not sure if the article needs to be fully deleted but it, at the very least, should be moved into the draft space until further news arises. – BoogerD (talk) 06:52, 13 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Move to Draft: - pretty standard way to handle shows that haven't been picked up/haven't had firm airdates announced. -- Netoholic @ 09:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - some recent sources have been added to the article after it was tagged for deletion. FYI - the WOLF  child  04:00, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Neither cheatsheet.org not harshlight.org are reliable sources. They’re just reiterating information from the initial Deadline announcement. A planned series does not meet notability requirements; an actual series does.  —-  Wikipedical (talk) 16:16, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Same as above, hasn't started production yet.--QueerFilmNerd (talk) 16:41, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete agree with other delete voters, this is a good example of WP:CRYSTAL Amsgearing (talk) 18:40, 19 May 2018 (UTC)


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