Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Meat Science Association


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The result was delete. In almost a month of listing (and 15 years of the article existing), no one has been able to demonstrate that significant coverage in reliable sources exist, so the arguments that they don't is compelling. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 12:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

American Meat Science Association

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My beef with this article is that it cites no third-party sources (tagged since 2015) and makes no claim to notability. (Which would make it speediable, but it's been around since 2006.) A search establishes that the organization exists, but reveals no in-depth coverage of the sort we'd need for notability per WP:N.  Sandstein  20:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * weak keep just from a quick googling. It does exist and there are a few sources, mostly local news, that talk about it. e.g. and . But nothing to back up whats in the actual article like the history of the association. But I havent looked too in depth Eopsid (talk) 20:33, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete these do not constitue WP:SIGCOV. The 1-sentence mention of AMSA in [1] is AMSA fosters community and professional development among individuals who create and apply science to efficiently provide safe and high quality meat defined as red meat (beef, pork and lamb), poultry, fish/seafood and meat from other managed species. [2] just says they hosted a quiz for undergraduates. I do find it curious how an association with its own journal (Meat and Muscle Biology) has no SIGCOV. So I just checked Google News, Scholar, and proper, going through the first three result pages. Seems like there are no sufficiently meaty sources; it's mostly self-published stuff. ‎⠀Trimton⠀‎‎  18:59, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 22:13, 12 April 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * German speakers, especially those from Switzerland, have a reputation, at least here in England, for being rather humourless, so I think we should give the nominator some credit for the first two words. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:21, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm leaning keep, although my rationale is poor; this article is just a name drop, but their certification must be of some importance for a statewide initiative. Google Scholar comes up with lots of hits for papers they've done, and this one is hosted by the UN. Sure, regurgitating press-releases and primary sources aren't going to fly, but maybe I'm a little sympathetic toward trade-industry education. And to be entirely honest, I just wanted to chime in so I could agree on the above comment because it's the best nomination possible. Cheers, Estheim (talk) 03:05, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:58, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep A respectable scientific association. Finding sources is just a matter of looking – see WP:BEFORE and WP:NOEFFORT. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:42, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Then what exactly are these sources that are supposedly so easy to find?  Sandstein   12:32, 21 April 2021 (UTC)


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