Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amir Eden


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The result was   delete. J04n(talk page) 19:28, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Amir Eden

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Non-notable person. Eden's accomplishments amount to: None of these accomplishments rise to the level of notability for Wikipedia. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:36, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) taking part in the "Events Academy 2011", a summer seminar organized by the Better Bankside business improvement district;
 * 2) producing a film as part of that seminar that won an award in a Panasonic film competition (hardly a major filmmaking award);
 * 3) being named as "director" of Justice International, a charity of little to no notability (see the AFD for that organization) founded by Eden's father.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. LlamaAl (talk) 23:04, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom -Drdisque (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

The article is still to be edited, with further references. The following I urge to be taken into consideration. 1) The Events Academy is a recognised youth programme within the borough of southwark in London; the programme is supported by high profile individuals such as Simon Hughes the MP and Alaistar Campbell former labour cabinet member. The programme is very much a respected accomplishment within that borough and south London. The programme is also supported by large companies such as IPC media and First Protocol. The event organised was a business networking event which accommodated such individuals and business's. The programme has even received a Mayor of London Award as noted on the Better Bankside website.

2)with regards to the short film it may have escaped the individual who made the comment ' hardly a major filmmaking award' . I would like you to consider the fact the film was screened during the Olympics at the live sites as mentioned on the Film Nation website, which would suggest it to be a notable accomplishment. Additionally the Filmnation competition and more specifically determiNATIONS was supported by Panasonic a well recognised company as well as the British Film Institute and high profile persons such as Claudia Winkleman, Eddie Marson, Matt Horne, Alfie Allen and Joe Dempsie. It would be disrespectful to suggest this is not an accomplishment.

3) Witth regards to his directorship of Justice International I would like you to consider that Justice International is respected in the legal world, recognised by the BAR of England and Wales and that of Egypt and south asian countries such as Bangladesh, With the latter supporting its cause. Thee organisation is also recognised and associated with several European governments such as Switzerland, whom the organisation collaborates with to hold discussions with countries of the arab continent and countries such as france and Norway regarding the crisis in the Middle East. The company is supported and associated with notable legal figures such as John Platts Mills QC, Sir Ivan Lawrence and many more. The company is also publicised internationally within many media formats.

Kind Regards WilsonWilson1 (talk) 11:45, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment With regard to the arguments presented above:
 * Whether or not the Events Academy is a good or bad programme, with positive or negative reactions from the Bankside neighborhood that it serves, or the London community at large, and regardless of the notability of the people who support this programme, it is still a neighborhood improvement programme, and even if the programme is notable, that notability is not conferred automatically on every one of the programme's participants.
 * Regarding the film determiNATIONS and its screening at Olympic events: this is not an inherent sign of notability. I'm sure the London Olympics committee was searching high and low for any local flavor to add to the venues to highlight London.  I would venture to guess that many, many such projects were chosen for display around town -- this does not confer any level of notability to this film.  As for support of the British Film Institute for what is essentially a student film, there does not appear to be any citation supporting this, nor can any mention be found of the film at the BFI website.
 * With regard to Justice International, the notability of that organization is also in doubt (and has been brought up for its own AFD). The fact that the JI in question (apparently operating under the name Justice International World, possibly to avoid confusion with the UK Registered Charity Justice International that appears, based on its registered trustees, to be a separate organization) was founded by Amir Eden's father makes Eden's own involvement in the organization less notable.  And, even if JIW is deemed to be notable (i.e. if that AFD results in a keep decision), Eden's involvement in the organization is not verified by the organization's website, which does not list his name at all, anywhere.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:05, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

With regards the deletion of this article I would suggest that this is not appropriate. It is evident the article requires improvement however it seems there is no doubt wether the subject of the article is notable. WilsonWilson1 provides evidence of the respected accomplishments of Amir Eden.

DP87 (talk) 12:32, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment It should be noted that between them, users DP87 and WilsonWilson1 are solely responsible for the content of the Justice International article. DP87's neutrality in this matter should be considered in this light.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:05, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

The comment made above is false contributions to the Justice International article have been added by some who do not have an Wikipedia account.

With regards the Events Academy there seems to be some contradiction in WikiDan61's comments. The user suggests that the Events Academy is a neighbourhood improvement programme, which would not suggest it is not notable. There is no given description or identification of what degree of notability is acceptable for inclusion on Wikipedia. The user goes onto contradict his statement by suggesting that regardless of the notable associates and even if it is notable; which it would be due to the involvement of such notable figures. Furthermore the user suggests that this notability would not be conferred to participants of the programme. It can be argued that by association notability would be attributed to participants as a form of credit. WilsonWilson1 (talk) 16:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Wilson does not appear to have read or understood Wikipedia's notbality guidelines. The Events Academy, in order to be notable, would need to meet the criteria spelled out at WP:ORG.  The fact that notable persons have supported the Events Academy does not make the Events Academy inherently notable.  (See Notability is not inherited.)  Even if the Events Academy were notable based on Wikipedia's guidelines, participation in that Academy does not per se confer notability upon the participant.  (Again, see Notability is not inherited.)  The University of Notre Dame is notable; but not every alumnus of that university is notable simply for having attended.  Amir Eden must be demonstrated to be notable in his own right, by evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources.  Until that evidence is provided, I stand by my nomination of this article for deletion.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying the Wikipedia guidelines. Having now understood them I see yuor point with regards this page and accept that it should be deletedWilsonWilson1 (talk) 19:11, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: We do not wish to discourage new contributors, so after deletion from mainspace, and if you wish it, a copy of this article can be moved for a short time to a user workspace such as User:WilsonWilson1/Amir Eden for continued work. And you would then be encouraged to seek input from more experienced users after your work to determine if improvements have made it suitable for a return to mainspace.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:44, 13 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - I applaud the accomplishments of this young man. However, with respect to inclusion in Wikipedia, there is not the coverage needed to meet the criteria. -- Whpq (talk) 18:23, 14 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete without prejudice for recreation in the future, if and or when notability is finally established. I too applaud this person's accomplishments, and even cleaned up the article a bit just in case the author wishes it userfied but, in expanding my own searches, recognize that he does not meet inclusion criteria at this time.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. While the subject may became notable in the years to come--and I personally hope he does--at the moment he doesn't meet Wikipedia guidelines for notability.--SouthernNights (talk) 20:26, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
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