Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amirul Ikmal Hafiz


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) &#x222F; WBG converse 10:46, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Amirul Ikmal Hafiz

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Contested PROD. Concern was that the article Simply does not meet WP:NFOOTY. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:02, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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Keep see clarification later in discussion.
 * Delete - Definitely fails WP:NFOOTY, and not enough in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources to show they meet WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 03:35, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NFOOTY. The article claims that the player made appearances in a fully professional league but the sources show that the club concerned was part of the Malaysian Premier League not the S-League as claimed. Eagleash (talk) 04:28, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Article itself states player played for Harimau Muda in the 2015 S.League, which according to WP:FPL is a pro league. Soccerway (also in article), although with the wrong DOB, shows this too. R96Skinner (talk) 05:30, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Soccerway refers to Malaysia and only to the Premier League (which is not FPL). In 2015, Harimau Muda played in the Malaysian Premier League not the S-League. The claim in the article does not appear to be borne out by the sources. Eagleash (talk) 08:26, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment The Soccerway profile shows the S.League accompanied with the Singapore flag. See also this FourFourTwo article, where they preview Harimau Muda's 2015 participation in said S.League. They were a Malaysian club playing in the S.League, similarly to what DPMM FC (Brunei-based) do currently. There were/are a few 'Harimau Muda' clubs: A, B and C. Amirul Ikmal Hafiz featured for the 'B' side in the S.League, the article itself only directed (now changed) to the overall Harimau Muda article which only mentions the Malaysia Premier League history; hence this confusion it seems. - the FFT article states it was the 'b' squad in the 2015 S.League. R96Skinner (talk) 15:38, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Thanks for the clarification. It seems the S-League has pretty recently (2018) rebranded as 'Singapore Premier League'. Only adds to the 'fog' surrounding this one: after clarification seems NFOOTY is achieved. I have struck, and redone, !vote above. Eagleash (talk) 18:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Yeah. I completely understand the confusion, especially given the Harimau Muda teams are only separated by a single letter! R96Skinner (talk) 18:14, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - As nominator. I misread the SoccerWay profile as saying he had played in the Malaysian Premier League which is not fully pro, instead of the Singaporean one which is. As such the, the article meets WP:NFOOTY. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:NFOOTY.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:45, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:NFOOTY having played in the S-League. SportingFlyer  talk  02:59, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - This page was speedy deleted per WP:G5 by Yamla, only to be recreated by R96Skinner. I briefly closed this page, but since there are still unstruck delete votes here I've reopened it to return to the status quo ante. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:22, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep as above - meets WP:NFOOTBALL. Needs improving, not deleting. GiantSnowman 08:28, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Passes NFOOTY, has played senior international football, in a fully professional league or in a match in the competition proper (i.e. not qualifying rounds) of a cup competition which involved two teams both from FPLs. Fenix down (talk) 08:54, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - article is of pretty poor quality at the time of writing, but the subject does pass WP:NFOOTY and the nominator has changed his opinion so "Keep" is my !vote. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 15:54, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


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