Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ammons Middle School (2nd nomination)


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The result was redirect to List of Miami-Dade County Public Schools. Deor (talk) 12:18, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Ammons Middle School
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Non-notable middle school. The only notability is an award to a former principal, not to the school. Jacona (talk) 15:52, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep The school and its faculty have received numerous awards and were mentioned in trade publications. That satisfies notability. A few links were dead but I dug up some PDFs for them. edit: I've recovered them with the wayback machine. -- dsprc   [talk]  16:12, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * So if a faculty member is notable, the school is therefore notable?Jacona (talk) 19:50, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Why do you believe that the awards themselves (as distinct from the institution granting the awards) are notable? Epeefleche (talk) 20:15, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Touche. I really don't think the awards are notable. Nor is this middle school.Jacona (talk) 22:02, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:11, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:11, 3 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't believe primary sources support notability -- we need secondary sources to satisfy GNG. And I don't at this point see the indicated awards as of themselves notable. And I don't believe every school that has a student participating in the spelling bee is ipso facto notable.  Does the Keep !voter have other reasons for his !vote? Epeefleche (talk) 23:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * For the bee: the students were semi-finalists in the 2012 & 2014 Scripps bees, and won a regional bee held by Miami Herald. Scripps isn't just a bee, it is the Super Bowl of bees and is broadcast live on ESPN and national television, and the student received national attention for her participation (she is the cover shot for many reports). Only 281 students out of 11 million participate in the Scripps bee annually. It should be worth noting, that accolades for the institution and its students are at least somewhat significant as the school is a Title 1 school serving at risk, low income and minority students. These students generally perform below national average or even grade level yet this school consistently ranks high. Here are a few mentions I dug up about the school. (also: I am not a "he") -- dsprc   [talk]  02:38, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You misread my comment. I didn't refer to it as "a bee." I referred to it as "the spelling bee." I'm not sure with whom you are disagreeing. My comment stands. And, btw -- the students who made the semi-finals aren't themselves eligible as a result of that (let alone their school). Though ... kudos to them. --Epeefleche (talk) 03:17, 4 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Redirect to school district, per longstanding consensus at AfD that all but the most extraordinary elementary schools are presume non-notable. See for guidance WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Carrite (talk) 18:18, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Redirect to school district per long-standing precedent as documented at WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES -  which  is simply  a review of the facts as they  are and neither a policy  nor  a guideline. Nevertheless, the 100s of redirects in  the 'R from School' cat are ample evidence alone of the way  the community  has generally  agreed to  treat  such  creations. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:42, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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