Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amy Daly


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The result was   delete. The deletes have it by the numbers and the argument: there are too many question marks about the reliability/notability of the Tranny Award. Drmies (talk) 17:57, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Amy Daly

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Clearly fails the GNG, all relevant GNews hits are press releases or presskit pieces, all GBooks hits appear to refer to similarly named persons. Fails WP:PORNBIO and all other relevant SNGs. The claimed "Tranny Award" is actually a website poll (with unverifiable results) conducted by a porn studio the subject works for, and is neither independent nor significant; it's in the nature of an "Employee of the Month"-type award, and has been rejected as demonstrating notability in prior AFD discussion. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 22:12, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 22:22, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete -- per nom --Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 00:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

* Delete - most pornstars nowadays aren't notable, and this man/woman/futanari is no exception. --Madison-chan (talk) 01:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:45, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Not notable and no evidence of covereage outside of industry. May be worth looking over a few more of the ts porn stars with limited notability claims. RafikiSykes (talk) 20:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep The argument that Amy Daly has won the tranny award is equivalent to a employee of the month award has no basis. To state the award is a web site poll, is clearly inaccurate. Especially since there is footage of her receiving the award and the award ceremony on the internet(youtube.com,Tgirls.com has much of the footage). Amy Daly won the award and then was granted a web site following the winning of the award, which launched almost a year later. There is no evidence to support that the Amy Daly was an employee before or even now as she works with many companies in her industry as that is the nature of the pornography industry. Claim of conspiracy to discredit an award, is not a valid claim. If you do your research, you will find that these are the premier awards for the transsexual pornography industry.  There are also further sources on this including the tranny awards web site itself: at http://www.trannyawards.com/2009winners.php.  Aside from the Tranny award that she has won, she has also been nominated by AVN for transsexual performer of the year, which is documented in the article. Amy Daly was also featured on Entertainment tonight under the name of Jackie in 2007, which you can see here: http://new.etonline.com/celebrities/spotlight/2007/05/48166/ (she is in the yellow). The above comment by Madison chan refering to Amy Daly as a man/woman/futurani is evidence to show that there is possible biased being used because the subject is transgender. I have added further sources to the article. I would go as far as to say that this deletion request is frivolous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TSWikis1 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If the award is not given by a website poll, why does the official description of the award say the award "will be done by fan vote", with participation limited to paying members of the Grooby website and its affiliated paysites? AVN said the awards "were voted on by members of various TS-related websites" They're website polls. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 23:12, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not biased becuase the subject of the article is transgender, I'm biased because he/she didn't seem to be important. The fact that he/she won the "Trannsexual Of The Year seems to be notable, though, so I'll change my vote to keep, and you need to stop biting the newcomers, for God's sake. --Madison-chan (talk) 14:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note – Madison was blocked for sockpuppetry. Her !vote here should probably be discounted. JFHJr (㊟) 00:50, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per previous comment. — Alex discussion ★ 13:44, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I should agree with TSWikis1's rationale. Passes WP:ANYBIO and WP:PORNBIO.--Cavarrone (talk) 16:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as passing WP:ANYBIO and WP:PORNBIO. Stuartyeates (talk) 06:57, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * How in God's name does the "Tranny Award" satisfy either ANYBIO or PORNBIO? It gets a whopping two GNews hiys, one a press release, the other regurgitated PR copy. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 23:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Keep references provided support claims of notability. Concerned about transphobia at work here. PinkPolitico80 (talk) 14:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)PinkPolitico80
 * Delete -- the "award" is a non-entity with respect to reliable sources and is therefore insufficient to support a claim for notability. What we get here, then, is an article with references mainly to primary sources.  I lean towards the "inclusionist" approach here, but even I can see that the claims for "keep" here are lamentably weak.  Nomoskedasticity (talk) 08:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - per nom. Fails all notability guidelines for bios. ukexpat (talk) 14:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails GNG, fails WP:BIO. --Cameron Scott (talk) 16:10, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete – fails WP:GNG. Also fails WP:PORNSTAR because the Tranny Award is not a well-known award; nor are this subject's awards multiple; nor is a single AVN nomination enough to establish notability. JFHJr (㊟) 01:16, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * here is further sources for the tranny awards: http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece.php?id=116528&mi=all&q=amy+daly - Not every award is fan voted. Fans nominate and a panel of judges picks the winner.  Tranny awards are recognized across the porn industry as the premier award show for transsexual pornography.  Just because it is the award show for TRANSSEXUAL pornography does not deem it any less notable than an AVN award.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TSWikis1 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment – Nobody's said it's less notable because it's transsexual. The Tranny Award in particular happens not to be objectively notable, and so doesn't meet our current understanding of WP:PORNSTAR guidelines. And nobody has drawn a causal link but you. JFHJr (㊟) 03:23, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Sorry, but that award just doesn't seem to be well-known or noteworthy enough to justify retaining a poorly-sourced BLP on an otherwise non-notable person. Alzarian16 (talk) 01:25, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
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