Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amy Demboski


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The result was delete. May be suitable for an article after the election but a bit premature at the moment. JodyBtalk 00:52, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Amy Demboski

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non-notable mayoral candidate Deunanknute (talk) 23:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

She has been mentioned in every article referencing the Anchorage Mayor's race. She is also a sitting assembly member in Anchorage and is therefore a local luminary in the community. The original page was created to be short with references cited within it so that users could ad more over time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VapidlyYours (talk • contribs) 23:38, 9 February 2015 (UTC) — VapidlyYours (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. http://www.muni.org/Departments/Assembly/Pages/MemberProfiles.aspx http://www.adn.com/article/20140826/eagle-river-chugiak-assemblywoman-announces-anchorage-mayoral-run http://amandacoyne.com/politics/demboski-throws-hat-in-the-ring-for-anchorage-mayor/ http://www.alaskastar.com/Alaska-Star/October-Issue-1-2014/Ms-Mayor-maybe/ http://apeonline.org/amy-demboski-lobs-firework-anchorage-mayoral-race/ http://anchoragepress.com/news/fresh-face http://ballotpedia.org/Amy_Demboski http://www.msrwc.com/amy_demboski_for_mayor_campaign_kick_off User:Vapidlyyours — Preceding undated comment added 00:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC) http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/alcohol-tax-defeated/31083438 http://www.adn.com/article/20141117/assembly-member-wants-anchorage-opt-out-commercial-marijuana http://www.adn.com/article/20150127/ordinance-ban-public-marijuana-consumption-anchorage-passes-unanimously http://www.adn.com/article/20150123/state-alcohol-tax-eyed-alternative-anchorage-proposal http://www.alaskastar.com/Alaska-Star/November-Issue-4-2014/Demboski-proposes-muni-ban-on-marijuana-industry/ http://www.adn.com/article/20141119/demboski-pushes-anchorage-assembly-drop-registration-fees-old-vehicles http://www.alaskastar.com/Alaska-Star/April-Issue-1-2013/Demboski-wins-seat-on-Assembly/ http://www.ktoo.org/2014/12/02/anchorage-assembly-member-pushes-pot-ban-municipality/ http://www.claimsjournal.com/news/west/2014/12/04/258578.htm I also disagree on your arbitrary & overly subjective view point on the issue. Mrs. Demboski has been covered. At this point, as somebody who's trying to add to the collective knowledge of the world - I'm questioning your intentions with continually citing this article. Once again, it can be shown that you have been cited by wikipedia multiple times before for attempting to delete pages too quickly. There's no need for such a high-horse. This is a notable figure, in a city that compromises half of Alaska's population. Other assembly members are represented on the site, and therefore, this page has precedence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VapidlyYours (talk • contribs) 18:21, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * comment please see WP:POLITICIAN, all coverage appears routine, and she is currently a candidate for mayor, not mayor. Deunanknute (talk) 23:43, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * comment Looking at WP:POLITICIAN she is a notable person in the city of Anchorage. Her coverage for the Mayor's race is auxiliary to the article.  Our politicians are notable.  That is the first and most important guide-line.  The coverage of her only goes to add credit to her being a notable figure in the community.  She is currently part of an 11 person assembly that makes decisions for the citizens of Anchorage, that alone deserves an article.  If you feel so strongly about the mayoral addition it can be removed - but that won't stop her from doing it. User:Vapidlyyours  — Preceding undated comment added 23:58, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * what independent coverage does she have? Deunanknute (talk) 00:09, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * comment Beyond what was listed on the original thread, here are some examples of her coverage:
 * comment those are all standard coverage for a candidate, and do not imply notability. Deunanknute (talk) 00:34, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * comment Are you from Alaska? Show me one mayoral candidate with more coverage then that, in our state that's a lot of coverage.  Regardless, you've been flagged by wikipedia for flagging articles too quickly before, how is this different?  Like I wrote earlier, if you're qualm with this article is on the mayoral piece, it can be removed.  The mayoral piece is auxillary to a representative of Anchorage in the Assembly.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by VapidlyYours (talk • contribs) 01:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * comment - being a rep is also not notable. per WP:POLITICIAN "A politician who has received "significant press coverage" has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists." Local politicians are not inherently notable because of their position(s). You say she has notability outside of being a mayoral candidate, but the only reference that is not explicitly about her being a mayoral candidate is a short bio on the Anchorage municipal site. Deunanknute (talk) 01:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * comment - I disagree. Not only on the premise that Mrs. Demboski hasn't been covered in a significant way by multiple outlets:


 * comment - Only one of those articles is about Demboski, and even that one is routine coverage. As far as other assembly members having articles, please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. You have yet to show any coverage that meets notability guidelines. Deunanknute (talk) 21:52, 10 February 2015 (UTC)


 * comment -You're obviously biased. Your overly subjective view on this person, Mrs. Demboski, is coming across as you having an agenda.  I will be flagging you with wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by VapidlyYours (talk • contribs) 03:28, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete – After observing the tone of the discussion thus far, I took the liberty to scan the contributions of these two users. VapidlyYours has made no edits outside of this topic, while Deunanknute has initiated scores, if not hundreds, of deletion actions in the past week alone (and it should be pointed out nominated this article for deletion thirteen minutes after it was created).  Perhaps it's time for someone else to step in here.  As it currently stands, Amy Demboski's primary claim to notability is in her current position on the Anchorage Assembly.  Within Alaska, the assembly is a notable and politically important body.  It has served as a springboard to higher office going all the way back to its inception in the 1970s and the likes of Tony Knowles and Arliss Sturgulewski.  To the world at large, which is what many Wikipedians will claim is all that matters, she is a member of a city council of a marginally major American city.  As for her mayoral candidacy, I don't buy the notion that only being a candidate for an office is an automatic indication of non-notability.  Many tried that approach in the case of Theresa Obermeyer, herself a candidate for Anchorage mayor among other offices, yet that article survived a rather contentious AFD/DRV process.  As we're currently lacking articles on both the Anchorage Assembly and the Anchorage mayoral election (which is just weeks away, incidentally), the existence of this article amounts to putting the cart before the horse, never mind that it also suggests a faint whiff of promotion for Demboski's candidacy.  I haven't even addressed that Demboski generates strong opinions on "social media", suggesting that this article will be a BLP nightmare for years to come if kept, or the comparisons to Paul Bauer (politician), though that article clearly has BLP1E and COI issues that aren't as evident in this case. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  09:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alaska-related deletion discussions.  RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  09:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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 * Probable keep but article is way too short Bangor, Maine has Wikipedia articles on twelve members of its city council. This council member in Anchorage could qualify under the Bangor criteria. But there needs to be elaboration it seems to me about her running for mayor. I certainly can understand the importance of a council member in Anchorage, by far the largest city in the state. Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:27, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * "My old buddy" Chris Birch served three terms on the Anchorage Assembly, having been term-limited out of office fairly recently. He also served two terms on the Fairbanks North Star Borough assembly, was general manager of Fairbanks International Airport, enjoyed a unique upbringing in rural Alaska, etc.  While keeping in mind that consensus can change, past experience tells me that I would likely be wasting my time arguing for his notability.  Then again, I feel the same way about long-ago assembly members such as Fred Chiei and Lidia Selkregg, even though notability is a lot clearer in those cases.  Hell, Don Smith has had a political career in Anchorage spanning a half century, serving in/on the Alaska House of Representatives, the Greater Anchorage Area Borough Assembly, the Anchorage Assembly and the Anchorage School Board.  He's been a politically controversial figure for longer than Amy Demboski has been alive.  Sure enough, no article, in spite of inherent notability in this case.  I only say all this because "do what you like" should describe Ginger Baker's contribution to Blind Faith, not the clueless cowboy approach to building encyclopedic content. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions  06:56, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment Any state representative qualifies for Wikipedia. So you can add the person you have in mind without retribution or a claim of lack of "notabilitiy." Bangor, Maine, has twelve city council members with Wikipedia articles. This should set a precedent for all council members, but most council members will be deleted, whether they should or not. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:34, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Once again, please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, and besides, all but one of those Bangor council members went on to higher offices (congress or governor). Using other AfDs to try to establish a precedent for the open AfDs on the various non-notable Louisiana councilmen mayor articles you have created won't help your cause.OhNo itsJamie Talk 19:45, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * comment "The various non-notable Louisiana councilmen articles you have created"????? The only city council members that I recall having created, without one having other offices too, were three or four in New Orleans, and they were allowed to stand. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:17, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Meant to say "mayors." Fixed. OhNo itsJamie Talk 02:23, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Only claim to fame is being candidate for mayor, which doesn't come close to WP:NPOL. OhNo itsJamie Talk 02:25, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Being a candidate for an office does not make one notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete She is one of nine candidates in the mayoral election; that hardly makes her notable. The claimed coverage is pretty much just mentioning that she is one of the nine candidates; nothing significantly about her. She currently serves on the Anchorage Assembly, which despite its important sounding name is actually the non-notable city council. Looking at the article List of mayors of Anchorage, Alaska, all previous mayors have an article here, so whoever wins the election will probably get an article too. The eight failed candidates will not. There is no election article to redirect to, so this article should be deleted. --MelanieN (talk) 03:44, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
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