Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ana Rodriguez (Miss Texas USA)


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The result was   no consensus. Stifle (talk) 15:16, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Ana Rodriguez (Miss Texas USA)

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Fails WP:NMODEL, fails WP:BLP1E (excluding teen events), sourced only to local paper WP:ROUTINE coverage. Part of a mass creation of articles on pageant participents by a SOCK farm link and junk building effort. She teaches preschool now so unlikely to be doing other things to warrant a WP article Legacypac (talk) 11:35, 31 January 2015 (UTC) Legacypac (talk) 11:35, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as subject meets the verifiability and notability standards for WP:GNG. There is nothing in WP:NMODEL that specifies beauty pageant contestants and, in any case, it does not supersede WP:GNG. Notability is not temporary and the subject is covered by reliable third-party sources. Article was created in September 2012 by User:MissAmericaGirl who is neither a sockpuppet nor a junk builder. This nomination, however, is one of a growing series by this nominator in this topic all made about two minutes apart in the wake of a failed mass-nomination. My normal presumption of good faith is strained significantly. - Dravecky (talk) 11:53, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of US-related deletion discussions. -- Sam Sing! 14:26, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:45, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete: As far as Dravecky's heated Keep arguments go, I just looked back at his cut-and-paste Keep votes on these pageant AfDs. He made the first one at 6:43.  The second came at 6:50, with six more coming over the next eleven minutes.  He cannot possibly claim to have made an adequate search for sources in a time frame like that, and I'm quite comfortable with calling that bad faith. Examining the article on the actual merits, the sources presented are (1) a broken link, (2-4) primary and promotional pageant websites, and (5) a blog post.  A Highbeam search for "Ana Rodriguez" + Texas turns up zero relevant hits.  This is an obvious GNG failure, and I'd be very happy to hear from Dravecky as to what significant coverage to reliable, third-party, independent sources he claims exists.   Ravenswing   03:50, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Reply I'd intended to rewrite this article with the articles from multiple reliable third-party sources I found that focus on this person but they include September 2010, September 2010, October 2010, June 2011, June 2011, June 2011, July 2011, and so on. - Dravecky (talk) 07:35, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment The problem is we have never decided if winning beauty pagents is a one-time event, or if because a crowned beauty pageant winner is expected to actually do things as such, it is holding a position over an entire year.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:41, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge to Miss Texas USA. Notability is possible, but the current sourcing fails to prove it.  That doesn't mean Rodriguez can't be covered in a broader topic though.  About one paragraph of coverage would be appropriate at the Miss Texas page, and that is about what we have in the article (despite being broken into 4 sections). --ThaddeusB (talk) 22:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Switched to keep per article improvements by Dravecky. Notability is now proven. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep The article subject meets WP:GNG as far as  the verifiability and notability.  I agree with Dravecky regarding " Notability is not temporary and the subject is covered by reliable third-party sources." WordSeventeen (talk) 18:22, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mr. Guye (talk) 03:21, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to Miss Texas USA 2011. Fails GNG with a big thud. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:31, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Update: I have extensively expanded and improved the Ana Rodriguez (Miss Texas USA) article with a significant number of in-depth references from reliable third-party sources (along with other sources that serve verifiability rather than notability). I respectfully request that any editor review the article in its current form and consider revising their !vote. - Dravecky (talk) 11:19, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Still delete she is still a preschool teacher, and helping to construct the world's biggest P&J sandwich as a career highlight just proves that she is not notable enough for an article here. Legacypac (talk) 23:18, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Notability is not temporary and this article is now better sourced than 90% of the biographies in the entire encyclopedia. Please put your personal feelings aside and evaluate the article on policy grounds. - Dravecky (talk) 04:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
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