Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anat Spiegel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete Spiegel & Myrmel, Keep Cytter. I'm also closing the other AfD for Cytter now. ~ trialsanderrors 09:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Anat Spiegel


There's several interrelated articles here, the notability of which is in question. Anat Spiegel was created by User:Tmyrm, who is likely to be the Thomas Myrmel listed as one of her collaborators. The Thomas Myrmel article, in turn, was created by User:Keren cytter (later edited by Tmyrm), who is likely to be the subject of the article Keren cytter also created by Tmyrm. This article is linked to by both Thomas Myrmel and Anat Spiegel, but none have any incoming links besides the other two, making this a walled garden of sorts. All three articles are written in an unencyclopedic and somewhat promotional/'artsy' tone, though the assertions they contain, if true, sound at least marginally notable. Nevertheless there appears to be some tit-for-tat self-promotion involved. Opabinia regalis 03:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all - it's rare to see vanity articles that don't even bother to assert some kind of even tentative notability--Dmz5 06:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all per above. I suspect all three users are the same person, due to similarities in writing style ... MER-C 10:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Spiegel and Myrmel as quasi-walled garden, without sourced notabiliy; no vote on cytter: her article asserts notability, and extends outside the garden. -- Simon Cursitor 14:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Spiegel and Myrmel Weak Keep and Rename cytter to Cytter. No sources for the former - non notable.  Cytter is mention on the outside web site to have won a CHR25K Baloise prize.  That is probably notable.  The article needs clean up.  The source shows her called Cytter so I see no reason to not capitalise.Obina 19:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Cytter. Keren Cytter is the only notable one amongst them from the information available. The information in the article largely checks out, and now referenced up. She has exhibited widely in Europe these last 2 years, and has won a significant prize. Spiegel and Myrmel (who, incidentally, are married to each other), however, appear to be below the waterline of WP:BIO. "Thomas Myrmel" scores 49 unique Ghits, most of which are in dutch. Of those which are not, there are the odd blog articles and photos which the subject has posted, and a small handful of performance listings in czech. Myrmel + voisin scores 19 unique Ghits, and most appear to be event listings, principally from 2 websites. Spiegel scores 45 unique Ghits, all of which in dutch, Khadish + MTV scores 12 unique Ghits, all of which in dutch, so unless any nethelanders amongst you who can help verify these, I support Delete of Spiegel and Myrmel. Ohconfucius 03:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Keren Cytter. Per references provided, multiple showings internationally, satifies the artists part of WP:BIO.  Delete (but don't salt) the other two.  --Oakshade 06:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, the reasons for calling this non-notable are worded as if this was a personal vendetta Alf photoman 16:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Spiegel, NN. Delete Myrmel, NN. Keep Cytter, looks like there's enough to support notability. Obviously don't salt the other two - looks like they've got the ambition to make it back in here on their own merits in time ! WMMartin 16:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Sharkface217 03:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Spiegel, NN. Delete Myrmel, NN. Keep Cytter Mukadderat 01:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.