Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ancestry of Juan Carlos I of Spain


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Family tree of Spanish monarchs. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:55, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Ancestry of Juan Carlos I of Spain

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Whole article unsourced. Important things from this article can be merged to Juan Carlos I.  Peter Ormond &#128172;  04:07, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages per the same reason:

We already have Family tree of Spanish monarchs. What is the point of having these articles? They should be merged to their respective subjects, and the ancestry tables and charts should be moved to Family tree of Spanish monarchs. Also WP:NOTGENEALOGY. See a similar discussion at Articles for deletion/Ancestry of Elizabeth II.  Peter Ormond &#128172;  04:16, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 04:54, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 04:54, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 04:54, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment. We have a problem in that the creator and main editor is no longer active. It would be interesting to read their rationale for creating them. As they are unsourced, they could be deleted out of hand for failing WP:V but I think we should first consider renaming them as list articles . No Great Shaker (talk) 05:22, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. As per other comments, the subject-matter is adequately covered elsewhere. Please ignore my above thoughts about listing. No Great Shaker (talk) 10:15, 8 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. They both already have ancestry sections in their articles.2601:241:300:B610:28FA:2DD8:F7CF:4C44 (talk) 01:31, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:17, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Possibly Keep one of these; certainly not both. Linear descents may be useful, but these do not provide as much detail as the full descent tables.  I would suggest keeping the article on the present king, and making the article on his father a redirect to it.  WP:V requires that information should be verifable, not that full references should be provided, which would be onerous in cases such as this.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:06, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  10:37, 14 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 14:57, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Juan Carlos article. Trillfendi (talk) 16:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect all to Family tree of Spanish monarchs, which is sufficient coverage of the topic. I have no policy objections to include Juan Carlos' ancestry in that article, but editorially I feel it's unnecessary. User:力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 19:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - all of these ancestry type articles, IMHO. GoodDay (talk) 23:42, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect 'Genealogy of the Spanish royal family' to 'Family tree of Spanish monarchs'. It's essentially a content fork of either that article or 'Ancestry of Felipe VI' and the title is a closer match to the family tree. DrKay (talk) 09:27, 31 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.