Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ancien Pont Bridge


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 03:30, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Ancien Pont Bridge

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Prod removed with no reason by an inclusionist. Bridges are not inherently notable, and there are insufficient sources to demonstrate GNG is met LibStar (talk) 13:58, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:13, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep This is a major bridge in the capital of Benin. The main complication in this case is that the bridge is in Francophone Africa and searching the French language sources across the internet isn't especially easy.  We have adequate support for the current stub in sources such as this  As our role includes that of a gazetteer, there's no case for deletion of this named, historic feature. Andrew D. (talk) 12:46, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * all this source says is that the ancien Pont bridge spans water!! How does that even establish notability, it merely confirms what this bridge does like the vast majority of bridges, span water!! LibStar (talk) 13:25, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm now waiting for the good old WP:PRESERVE to be rolled out in a desperate attempt to cover up the shallowness of this source. LibStar (talk) 13:27, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - per Andrew Davidson who is right. Though I could agree that sources are needed. --BabbaQ (talk) 17:19, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * please list sources that establish notability.   Andrew Davidson provided a weak source. LibStar (talk) 17:30, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment you will see searches like this and this which picks up zero reveal no real coverage of the bridge and nothing to establish its "importance". LibStar (talk) 06:51, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * a major Benin online newspaper has zero results for Ancien Port. LibStar (talk) 07:13, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * major Benin newspaper La Nation (Benin) has nothing on Ancien Port. LibStar (talk) 07:17, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I think that's a flawed search site. The same newspaper has nothing on Obama.--Oakshade (talk) 14:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

highbeam reveals an ancien port in Haiti. LibStar (talk) 07:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - This is the main artery between the two halves of Cotonou, Benin's largest city. It's unfair to claim no sources exist when a developing nation does not have online backlogs in the same way the United States or the United Kingdom do.  This might be a case of systemic bias.  I did find a French language source that shows only a preview but indicates it was built in 1928 and renovated in 1981. --Oakshade (talk) 02:58, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't see how that source establishes notability. We wouldn't create an article for a bridge based on a source like that. LibStar (talk) 04:15, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If all people can claim it's a major artery it may be best to merge to Cotonou at best, I don't see how you can justify an article on that sole fact and no signficant coverage. LibStar (talk) 04:38, 8 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. One of only three bridges connecting the two halves of a city of over a million people. Common sense tells me that's notable. Can you really tell me that wouldn't make it notable in North America or Western Europe? Of course there's a lack of online sources - this is Africa! -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:57, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You are correct. --BabbaQ (talk) 11:42, 8 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment – An option is to merge to Cotonou, which presently only mentions the bridge. This is a functional WP:ATD-M would serve to enhance the merge target article. North America1000 03:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't be opposed to a merge without prejudice for re-creation if more topic-specific content is written and possibly the Cotonou article becoming too large.--Oakshade (talk) 04:28, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't support keep, but would support merge. LibStar (talk) 06:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


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