Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/And No Quarter


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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Cabayi (talk) 12:44, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

And No Quarter

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Lacks notability. None of the references refer to the book, just to its historical background. Cabayi (talk) 09:32, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Cabayi (talk) 09:33, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Maurice Walsh was Ireland's most popular author in the 1930s and 1940s and considered notable enough to have his own Wikipedia page (which I've also updated). At present, there are no Wikipedia articles on any of his books, which is similar to saying Shakespeare was a great author but we won't bother providing any idea why that is so;


 * I selected 'And No Quarter' as an example because the historical setting is fairly unique (Montrose's campaigns of 1644-1645) and the book provides a good overview of Walsh's themes as an author as well as insights into why he fell out of fashion.


 * I think the same can be said of other articles on Wikipedia eg Compton Mackenzie, barely mentioned today, but the novel of 'Whiskey Galore' is deemed worthy of an article, plus another for the film.

Robinvp11 (talk) 09:52, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * I've been advised separately referring to another article is unjustified and that the criteria are applied consistently. I'm happy to accept that but I would appreciate clarification in the interests of saving us all time in future.


 * I've been advised this article does not pass the Notability test because it (a) provides references only for the historical events that it relates to and that (b) saying it provides a good overview of Walsh's themes as an author as well as insights into why he fell out of fashion is original research and thus disqualifies it. But that these are not true of the article on Mackenzie's 'Whiskey Galore.'


 * This is a genuine question; I've accepted that 'And No Quarter' will be deleted but bearing in mind the notability criteria, can someone explain to me the differences between this article and that on Whiskey Galore? Because I'm struggling and I want to make sure I understand for future reference.

Robinvp11 (talk) 16:27, 28 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Satisfies criteria 5 of WP:NBOOK because the author, Maurice Walsh is of exceptional historical importance, such that you would expect his books to be the subject of academic study. Walsh has an article in Everyman's Dictionary of Literary Biography, English and American (D C Browning (compiled after J W Cousin), "Walsh, Maurice", Everyman's Dictionary of Literary Biography, English and American, Everyman's Reference Library, Revised Edition, J M Dent & Sons Ltd, 1960, pages 713 and 714). This is an exceptionally highly selective biographical dictionary that only includes the most exceptionally important authors. Further, this book is listed there as one of his important ones. James500 (talk) 03:30, 29 August 2018 (UTC) A straightforward search   would have quickly confirmed that this satisfies GNG and criteria 1 of NBOOK with multiple book reviews: eg Ireland To-Day, New York Times Saturday Review of Books and Art  , Dublin Magazine , The Times Literary Supplement, The Scotsman, Book Society News, Nottingham Guardian, Aberdeen Press and Journal (quoted in other periodicals). James500 (talk) 04:21, 29 August 2018 (UTC)


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