Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andalusia, Arizona


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Lourdes 17:16, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Andalusia, Arizona

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Non-notable development which fails WP:GNG and WP:GEOLAND Lightburst (talk) 02:44, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:44, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:44, 8 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - seems to be a bit of retaliatory nom (along with 4 other articles) for Articles for deletion/John McHugh Sr., which now seems to be headed for the deletion. And since this editor has never shown a propensity for Arizona geography articles. Passes WP:GEOLAND, since, according to GNIS it is has a "an official federally recognized name."  Onel 5969  TT me 03:02, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment My !voting record and AfD participation is available for anyone to see. I participate on multiple AfDs across every subject. I am sure Onel5969 has acted in good faith in creating these many non-notable Geoland articles. Unfortunately the fifty or so articles must all be nominated since they do not come close to satisfying SNG or GNG. Since the many articles created are not Legally recognized per the SNG of WP:GEOLAND - they must then pass WP:GNG as Populated places without legal recognition. They clearly do not pass Lightburst (talk) 03:30, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment, as per GNIS, this location is a place "having an official federally recognized name" as per the official US database.  Onel 5969  TT me 03:48, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Which is different than legally recognised, i.e. in Arizona's case, incorporated (though a large number of unincorporated probably qualify for #1, and would easily pass WP:GNG anyways). SportingFlyer  T · C  10:37, 8 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, populated place, exists. Hyperbolick (talk) 06:26, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete The GNIS has myriad housing subdivisions listed in Phoenix before 1984, when it apparently stopped being updated, and this is one of them: Per Articles for deletion/Autumn Ridge, Arizona, these subdivisions do not pass WP:GEOLAND #1 (there must be thousands in the Phoenix metro area), has a Scottsdale address, and there is no indication this place passes WP:GNG either as a neighborhood. I've extensively searched for this one as well. SportingFlyer  T · C  06:34, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete GEOLAND quite clearly states that "subdivisions...housing developments...unofficial neighborhoods" must meet GNG, and there is zero evidence that this does so. Existence is not notability. Reywas92Talk 09:32, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete like the others, the GNIS entry is sourced only to "Living: the Phoenix Housing Guide V. 6 #1. Dallas, Texas: Baker Publish Inc., 1983/1984." This is just another NN subdivision specifically excluded under GEOLAND#2 as presumed notable. Must therefore meet GNG. MB 16:32, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - just to correct some misconceptions regarding GNIS and whether or not they are a reliable source for this type of Gazetteer information. All the following information is taken directly from the USGS website (emphasis added is mine):


 * The U.S. Board on Geographic Names (BGN) is a Federal body created in 1890 and established in its present form by Public Law in 1947 to maintain uniform geographic name usage throughout the Federal Government.


 * Decisions of the BGN were accepted as binding by all departments and agencies of the Federal Government.


 * It serves the Federal Government and the public as a central authority to which name problems, name inquiries, name changes, and new name proposals can be directed.


 * The GNIS Feature ID, Official Feature Name, and Official Feature Location are American National Standards Institute standards.


 * The database holds the Federally recognized name of each feature and defines the feature location by state, county, USGS topographic map, and geographic coordinates.  Onel 5969  TT me 02:22, 9 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete This is a non-notable sub division.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:26, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


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