Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anders Eklund (trucker)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  May be restored to merge with an article about the case if one gets written. Sandstein (talk) 07:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Anders Eklund (trucker)

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I listed this for speedy deletion this morning - this guy may have confessed to murder, but legally he has not yet been tried and has not been found guilty of murder. So, legally, he's an innocent man until proven guilty. I can very much believe that he did do it, but it's not yet been proven in law. So at the moment we've got an article about someone which states that he's a serial killer, and states as a fact that "His final victim was the 10-year old girl Engla". I think that this is a big legal problem for wikipedia, which is why I flagged it for speedy deletion. For ten hours, administrators went through and got rid of everything else in the speedy delete category, but just left this here. So I put a "help me" tag on my user page, asking why, and someone called Wknight94 responded to my "help me" request by belittling me, saying "I'm not sure why you're so excited about this". Hey, Wikipedia sure is a friendly, welcoming place! I've edited anonymously for a while now, and decided to start an account, and I don't think this was a very nice welcome...

Anyway, I'm sure that in time he WILL be found guilty, and when that happens he needs a page as his notability will be firmly established. In the meantime, surely this article needs to go - being a truck driver isn't notable (what a ridiculous page title - "Anders Eklund (trucker)"!) and nor is the fact that he's been convicted of exposing himself and "other minor offences". When he's found guilty, start an article. Until then, delete! Patty Fantastic (talk) 14:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 17:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 17:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment there is substantial coverage of the case, but the way the article has been written implies more than has been admitted or is being claimed in the media, for example "his final victim" where "victim" does not specifically refer to murder but the way the article has been written implies it. --Snigbrook ( talk ) 15:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have rewritten that part of the article, but I'm not sure about notability. It has had recent news coverage, but the notability may be only temporary. --Snigbrook ( talk ) 15:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete on a number of grounds - Wikipedia is not a newspaper, putting up an article on a suspected murderer who has not yet been tried, WP:BLP1E with no other notability. Should have been speedied on sight.  KleenupKrew (talk) 13:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I tried that, but Wknight94 told me "I'm not sure why you're so excited about this" and untagged it. Patty Fantastic (talk) 15:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is not a police blotter.-- danntm T C 22:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename to the 'Engla murder' or 'Engla case' as per the names of the articles in the other language Wikis. The case/murder is notable, at least in a Scandinavian context. --  rxnd  ( talk ) 16:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see how the existing article can possibly be renamed to either of these - the article is all about the suspect with a passing reference to the case. If the case deserves an article, a new article needs to be created. Renaming the existing article won't address the problem. Patty Fantastic (talk) 06:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


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