Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andorran ambassador to Spain


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The argument that the available references merely establish the subject's existence is convincing; however, this AfD clearly highlights a blindspot in WP:ORG. It requires a broad reading of that guideline to conclude that it applies here. The precendent established by the previous AfDs highlighted below suggests that an update to the guideline is warranted.  A  Train ''talk 10:27, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Andorran ambassador to Spain

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fails WP:ORG. embassies are not inherently notable. A number of similar articles have been deleted at AfD Gbawden (talk) 11:26, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Also nominating

Gbawden (talk) 11:32, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:48, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * delete all coverage merely confirm it exists and who was ambassador. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 16:03, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep all. No real argument has been advanced for deletion. WP:ORG obviously doesn't apply since it's not an organisation. Perhaps, however, it is better to keep these as a list article: List of Andorran ambassadors to Spain, etc. It is true that Category:Lists of ambassadors to Spain has only six articles, but we need more of these lists, not fewer. StAnselm (talk) 03:15, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * it fails WP:GNG. LibStar (talk) 08:34, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 17:10, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete all Nothing worth mentioning here that isn't already covered in Foreign relations of Andorra, which lists the countries where Andorra has embassies. The ambassadors themselves aren't notable (unless they've done something else that makes them notable). Tigercompanion25 (talk) 17:32, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The articles have in common, that they discribe official representatives of one subject of international law to another. Reg west (talk) 12:00, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * so? There is no inherent notability of ambassador articles. LibStar (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   07:16, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I consider that all embassies should be notable. This is a slightly odd case, since Andorra is a co-dominion of the two adjacent states, not a sovereign state.  If not kept it would be necessary to merge to the foreign relations articles.  However the individual ambassadors may not be not be notable, and should thus be delinked.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:16, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * you're arguing for inherent notability of ambassador articles. That is not the case as many have been previously deleted. LibStar (talk) 13:20, 29 August 2016 (UTC)


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