Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/André Henri


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 07:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

André Henri

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Delete. This is not a given name - Andre is the given name, Henri is one of the middle names. On WP, we do not keep pages to list everyone with a certain combination of given name and middle name. Please see Frank William's AfD. Boleyn2 (talk) 08:27, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Comment Those who have contributed here may wish to comment on the AfDs of theses similar pages: Frank William, Paulo Jorge, Marie Constant and Francis William. Boleyn2 (talk) 17:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Some pairs of names are given as a specific combination (e.g., the common Spanish forename Jose Maria), however I see no particular reason to believe that is the case here.  The article also states that "Andre Henri may refer to" the two people listed, but a quick examination of sources about both people doesn't turn up any instances of them actually being referred to in this fashion.  JulesH (talk) 16:30, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * (comment that I've posted on Frank William AfD page. I am similarly unconvinced one way or another with André Henri. The immediately preceding strikethru (in contrast to all strikethru that follows in this contrib) was performed by the signing editor 26 minutes after the sig) Comment without recommendation - it appears that nom is basing this (and perhaps other) nominations, not on MOS:DAB (which is actually rather silent about this situation) but on WP:IDONTLIKEIT instead. If the nom wishes to nuke given name pages, he/she should start the discussion as to whether the mention of given names should not be mentioned at all in MOS:DAB; similarly, WP:ALLORNOTHING is being implied here, yet this is not a valid reason for either keeping or deleting an article, a redirect, or even a disambiguation page. In addition, nom "confesses to preferring the deletion of all given name pages that don't offer a substantial discussion of the origin and meaning of the name itself" - yet MOS:DAB discourages such a presentation in article space in the first place. At present I remain unconvinced one way or the other as I am unsure as to whether these people are referred to regularly as "Frank William" as opposed to simply "Frank". On the other hand, claiming that this is a vanity page denies good faith, which itself is a violation of one of the Five Pillars of Wikipedia (two of them, actually). --147.70.242.54 (talk) 20:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC) Additional (but non-superscripted) strikethru added to ameliorate the damage done by this contrib. --Jerzy•t 10:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC) 
 *  ATTENTION : The Nominator in this AfD is NOT the "nom" that the above reckless and abusive IP is referring to; it is i who am the libeled party. The above travesty can be evaluated in its original context, where the text misrepresented here actually appears, at Articles for deletion/Frank William. --Jerzy•t 10:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This complaint, not about my words but its misrepresentation of them, and also declining to quote them so i speak for myself, is also a violation of WP:NPA, as it is not an argument about the topic under discussion but about my supposed intentions. (Please note that i struck thru the phrases that make it appear that the nom in this AfD process is the target of the falsehoods stated, but avoided any strikethru that would merely label falsehoods, lest it distract from the crucial point of mis-stated identity.) Most importantly among to the falsehoods, i did in fact say
 * ... but i have to also reflect on the purpose of these pages. Are they not primarily a diffuse sort of vanity page, of the variety suggested in John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt?
 * which does not concern good faith, since both ignorance of WP:N and misperception of one's own vanity as something else are common, and neither is likely to involve bad faith. --Jerzy•t 10:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. The connections here are too tenuous to make sense as a disambiguation, unlike the possibility presented with Frank William - in the case of Kostermans, "Henri" was rarely pronounced when someone referred to him - it was often omitted. 147.70.242.54 (talk) 20:38, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Del. There are pairs of names like "John Mark" (the name of the reputed author of the Gospel of Mark), that seem to occur together far more than statstics of the individual names would predict. But apparently random pairs of just of the most popular American male names (which cover 90% of that population) would run over a million articles, and the corresponding ones for American females over 4 million. By the end of WP's 16th year, that may be no big deal, but for now it would be a major change in the nature of the 'pedia's infrastructure, to little effect. --Jerzy•t 10:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.