Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrea Congreaves


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Szzuk (talk) 21:42, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Andrea Congreaves

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No claim to notability. No context. A one sentence article.  CRRays Head90  | #RaysUp 04:52, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep: a well-sourced stub which clearly passes WP:SPORT as she has played for her country. Pam D  05:38, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Since when does one source exemplify "Well Sourced"? And exactly which part of WP:NSPORTS does she meet?  CRRays Head90  | #RaysUp 08:33, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * CRRRays, in answer to your question, the subject satisfies the specific notability guideline of WP:NSPORTS because she played 84 games in the WNBA between 1997 and 1999 per WP:NBASKETBALL. The subject also satisfies the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG because she was the subject of at least three feature articles in the Chicago Tribune (1992), The Independent (1997), and the BBC (2012).  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:29, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep clear claim to notability and clear context - sportsperson who represented her country internationally. We don't delete pages because they are short. Boleyn (talk) 07:36, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * What claim to notability? Being apart of the national team does not satisfy WP:NHOOPS. And that's why my nomination doesn't hinge on the shortness, rather the lack of claim to notability which you have not provided a source to say she is.  CRRays Head90  | #RaysUp 08:33, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep That "one sentence" was enough for establishing notability.  Occult Zone  (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:42, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * How so? The one sentence says nothing special about her. Only that she was apart of a national team. Did she set a record? Was she in any way special outside having played for a national team? I would wager to guess that if she was, her article would be more than 10 words.  CRRays Head90  | #RaysUp 08:33, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - I developed the article. Notability more notoriously shown now. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 10:18, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:26, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
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 * Speedy Keep - Andrea Congreave played three seasons in the WNBA, appearing in 84 games with 58 starts. See here for more statistical details.  For those of you who are not American basketball fans, the WNBA is the highest level of professional basketball played by women in the United States, and with the exception of the Olympics and the FIBA international tournaments, arguably the highest level in the world.  Having played in the WNBA, the subject clearly satisfied the WP:NBASKETBALL specific notability guideline of WP:NSPORTS.  I hope an interested editor will take the time to clean up and expand this article, because the subject athlete clearly deserves better.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:40, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * In light of the fact that the subject clearly satisfies the specific notability guideline of WP:NBASKETBALL, and there are at least two reliable, independent sources (BBC and The Independent) that satisfy WP:GNG, I have changed my !vote to "speedy keep." Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:09, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep I'm a bit more skeptical of the "played on a national team" argument then most, unless the time spent on the national team involved an appearance in the Olympics or some other high-level international tournament. Nevertheless, she is definitely notable due to her time as a WNBA player, which more than satisfies the WP:NBASKETBALL requirements. Ejgreen77 (talk) 17:19, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * EJ, as I continue to read the available reliable source news articles revealed by a standard Google search, I've also discovered that she was on England's bronze medal team in the 2006 Commonwealth Games. Bottom line: she's clearly notable and there are multiple reliable sources.  According to her Linked In profile, she is actually the current head coach of the Mansfield Giants (EBL2) and the University of Nottingham women's team.  There appears to be plenty of material with which to work to create a fairly decent article.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:40, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * In light of the expansion to the article which now includes a proper claim of notability, I am withdrawing this AfD. Sorry for any inconvenience.  CRRays Head90  | #RaysUp 19:31, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sometimes an AfD process helps an article to get better, and this has been a good example of that case. Thank you, sincerely. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 20:17, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
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