Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrea Duke (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. As with Articles for deletion/Andrea Ciliberti, if the SNG discussion takes a surprising turn and ends up supporting this being kept, ping me. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Andrea Duke
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Andrea Duke is only marginally notable for being Miss North Carolina USA, but that is not enough to establish notability. The only paper that ran an article on her win seems to be the one in Ashville, North Carolina. The papers in the larger metro areas of Greensboro/Winston-Salem, Charlotte and Raleigh/Durham did not take note of her win. This shows that winning the title does not get much attention on the broad state level. The previous discussion basically closed that these people were not default notable, but that individual discussions on specific articles were needed to decide in more detail. Her success while playing volleyball at Wofford College does not look to be enough to establish notability either. John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:33, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:07, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 06:57, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. North America1000 06:57, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Miss North Carolina USA as a valid search term, and the subject is mentioned there. North America1000 06:57, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BIO1E and a minor one at that. The subject is otherwise not notable. The state-level win does not satisfy ANYBIO1, and the coverage is not there to meet GNG. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:06, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. Discussion about notability guidelines has already started on the Talk page for the Beauty Pageant project.  No harm will be done by closing this nomination as "keep" and letting the project-level discussion take its course.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 04:16, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:39, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: The discussion on pageant winners' notability is taking place here: RFC on creation of consensus standard, with participants variously advocating that (1) state level winners are not presumed notable, (2) state-level winners are not presumed non-notable; and (2) a special guideline is unnecessary, and that GNG should be used. There's an overlap between the these three positions. There aren't really voices for "state-level winners are always presumed notable" so I don't think the outcome of the discussion, if any, would have an impact on this AfD, which is trying to establish whether the subject meets GNG. Thus it may not make sense to suspend the AfD process for this nomination. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:40, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  17:10, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Beauty Pageants-related deletion discussions. PageantUpdater (talk) 00:32, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Beauty Pageants-related deletion discussions. PageantUpdater (talk) 00:32, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep for now, pending outcome of SNG pageant RfC. Aoziwe (talk) 12:48, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


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