Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andreas Martin (singer)


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The result was   keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:13, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Andreas Martin (singer)

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No indication of any international profile. Took part in a fringe Eurovision contest but failed to win. The page in German has no references and a search does not any notability under WP:MUSIC Karst (talk) 08:22, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 11:02, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 11:02, 20 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep The article is brief and not at all detailed, but that is not sufficient reason to delete. In German Wikipedia, the Andreas Martin article has much more detail (including a lifetime work award) and his discography indicates charting albums and singles in Germany over several decades. Is this a case of us English speakers haven't heard of him, so he ain't notable? I don't know - my German isn't good enough - but a better approach might be simply to tag the article for expansion from German. Emeraude (talk) 16:52, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Delete The article should be deleted because it lacks sufficient content and references. The article contains one sentence that gives information about the singer's date and place of birth and another sentence that claims the singer won third place in some contest but does not provide a reference to this. The one reference in the article is of the singer's official website, which is in German. The goal of this article should be to provide well researched information about this singer so the English speaking person can learn more about this singer. Since this article does not even come close to this goal, it should be deleted.Bmbaker88 (talk) 22:26, 20 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Response: WP:MUSIC is quite clear. A singer passes muster if they meet one or more of the criteria. Andreas Martin satisfies at least five, including numbers 2 (Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart), 5 (Has released two or more albums on a major record label), 7 (Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style), 8 (Has won or been nominated for a major music award), 9 (Has won or placed in a major music competition). It's also likely he qualifies as composer/lyricist. Yes, the article lacks content (so translate some from the German Wikipedia or tag it as a stub) and references (ditto, or tag as refimprove; or find some - which took 30 seconds just now for the OGAE result) but these are not in themselves reasons to delete. Emeraude (talk) 09:59, 21 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep as passing WP:MUSICBIO. Can somebody please add in information and citations from de.wikipedia? My German translation skills are even worse than my French skills. Bearian (talk) 17:19, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * "Comment" As I noted when I listed this for deletion, the page in German has no references whatsoever, which is why the translation would not be advisable. It appears that he has had some minor hits on the 1980s, but none of this has been verified anywhere. I looked for some interviews or articles, but as the German page had none, it is difficult to unearth relevant ones. It appears the page came into being from the creation of this OGAE_Second_Chance_Contest_1989 page. Karst (talk) 20:00, 23 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:50, 28 October 2014 (UTC)




 * The (English) article has references now, found from the external links in the German article. Emeraude (talk) 11:23, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - obviously per current sources, and plenty more available: "Andreas Martin" + "schlager" gets plentiful hits in Google Books, the singer has several best of compilations in series with other notable Euro artists. Can I ask User:Karst why didn't you notify article creator? In ictu oculi (talk) 00:18, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:51, 5 November 2014 (UTC)


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