Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Demcak (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Tokyogirl79, if you wish to keep working on this I'll be glad to move it to your userspace. Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:20, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Andrew Demcak
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Was brought to my attention on WP:COIN, because the user most likely is the subject. Considering the references and the last AfD, and the fact that this looks more like a vio of WP:NOTRESUME, I just don't see how this can stand. Phearson (talk) 06:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Just to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, I'm going to try to clean up the article. I've started by removing the reviews and such that are obviously from blogs as well as the references that just went to purchase pages for the books and the references that just went to Wikipedia entries for the colleges Demcak has gone to. Maybe the article will be better once all of the cruft is removed from it? Doubtful, but I'm going to at least try.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:50, 10 January 2012 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. CharlieDelta (talk) 07:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. CharlieDelta (talk) 07:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Delete Even allowing for the fact that it's difficult for modern poets to reach the kind of coverage which notable authors of novels achieve, I can't find any evidence that this poet comes close to reaching the notability guidelines for creatives. No reliable sources found in GNews or GBooks. No major awards. It seems to me that nothing has changed to reverse the decision made at the previous AfD.--CharlieDelta (talk) 07:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Additional. I'm having a really hard time finding sources. The only thing that I can find review-wise is the sole Verse Daily review, which has three separate people commenting in it. Two of them do seem to be notable per reliable source standards, but it's all on one source. I'm kind of leaning towards delete, but I'm going to work a little more on this.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 07:40, 10 January 2012 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Comment. I'm not familiar with how publishing works for poetry and the importance of the other references. I will seek input at WP:POETRY.  a13ean (talk) 14:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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