Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Jesse Brown


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Speedy Delete (A7). Blatant WP:COI, obnoxious talk page. Will salt if recreated.-- Hús  ö  nd  21:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Andrew Jesse Brown

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Wikipedia is not a place to host resumes of non-notable actors. Also, this may or may not be relevant, but a user with the name User:AndrewJesseBrown edited the Jason Modica article (another non-notable resume) and accused him of rape and drug charges, which is a pretty serious claim to make without any citations. See the edit here. Gladlyplaid 13:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC) — Gladlyplaid (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep, but fix the article. This is not a resume; were it a resume, it would include vital information such as where to contact the individual, statistics regarding the individual (body type, voice, etc.).  In addition, Andrew Jesse Brown is a notable actor in the NYC area, having recently performed in several off-off-off Broadway productions.  I strongly disagree with Gladlyplaid's movement to remove the Andrew Jesse Brown article. HammerTime32905 13:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Stop.  It's hammertime! — HammerTime32905 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep. Andrew Jesse Brown is an actor in the Bronx and Manhattan area.  The Jason Modica article mentioned here is not associated with this actor at all, nor is the user AndrewJesseBrown.  Suggestion: take action against User:AndrewJesseBrown (a name that could be created by ANYONE, not specifically Andrew Jesse Brown (actor, whom the article refers to), and not an article you do not know anything about.  Silverleaf56 13:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Silv — Silverleaf56 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep, but add to article. Also, see the Lake Catholic High School article for further information on Andrew Jesse Brown's influence on the community at large.  HammerTime32905 13:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Stop.  It's hammertime! — HammerTime32905 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * KEEP. Article has been repaired, and more will come.'''  AJB's political science works and contributions have been added.  The article is no longer fit for deletion because it does not stand as a resume, it stands as an article about a living person whom others may wish to know more about.  It has become a biography, and no longer an article to 'promote' this person's prestige.  BrandNewCigarettes 14:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC) Ciggy — BrandNewCigarettes (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * I linked to WP:NOTABILITY for a reason. Check this out: a topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works, whose sources are independent of the subject itself. Another good one is WP:BIO, which says In general, an article's text should include enough information to explain why the person is notable, and such information should be verifiable. Also keep in mind WP:BLP, which notes Wikipedia articles about living people can affect the subject's life. They must therefore be written with the greatest of care and attention to verifiability, neutrality and avoiding original research. I can't see that his notability is established in the article. If he really is more notable and well-known than other New York area actors working as bartenders, this needs to be explained and cited with independent sources (i.e. not Andrew's own website). --Gladlyplaid 14:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The independent study done by Andrew Jesse Brown contains multiple works. A reference to the independent sources is also made in the article.  The article also stands as neutral, since it is composed by a number of different authors and is open for edit by any other wikipedian. Silverleaf56 14:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC) Silv — Silverleaf56 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete Not notable. Seems like a number of new accounts have been created by the subject's friends solely to argue in this afd. Ocatecir 14:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Sweet lord, delete and salt. Completely non-notable in every conceiveable way. A lot of high schoolers (or kids now in college) have been in a bunch of plays and been nominated for some local awards. This does not, in any way, confirm importance, much less passage of WP:BIO. None of the 29 unique Google htis do anything to show notability, unless showing us that the guy posts on a lot of forums counts. The article, of course, has no reliable sources, probably because none exist. Can this just be speedied to avoid an spa attack? -- Kicking222 15:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason why you deleted your previous post, kicking222? It might be because it violates WP:Civility guidelines. BrandNewCigarettes 15:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Ciggy
 * First of all, I didn't delete it; it's still (very clearly) in the edit history. Second, that in no way violates civility guidelines- among other things, WP is uncensored, and I was not directly criticizing (much less attacking) anyone. I simply changed it because I felt my previous wording detracted from the valid points that I was making. Meanwhile, you and the other people who want to keep the article have not verifiably shown that the subject meets WP:BIO. -- Kicking222 16:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * This may be because there are no sources available for this particular subject. All sources are pamphlets and/or flyers, and therefore unverifiable.  And the manner in which you are using language is worded to be uncivil towards the authors of this article.  You, almighty Brandeis University student, have a disposition towards Fordham University that directly detracts from the neutrality of your postings.  Thank you, however, for your input.  BrandNewCigarettes 16:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Ciggy
 * Reply on user's talk page. -- Kicking222 16:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Reply on user's talk page. BrandNewCigarettes 16:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC) Ciggy
 * Speedy Delete as non-notable biography which fails WP:V. As a "keep" voter says above, "there are no sources available for this particular subject. All sources are pamphlets and/or flyers, and therefore unverifiable." I agree. (And with friends like that, this article doesn't need enemies.) - Eron Talk 16:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * This may be because there are no sources available for this particular subject. No sources? No problem, no article. It's just that simple, I don't care what university anyone went to. Delete Tubezone 16:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete NN actor. We have enough of these already. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 16:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt as obviously non-notable. JChap2007 17:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete per Eron, who said it better than I ever could. -- weirdoactor tundefinedc 17:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * SPEEDY DELETE like I said before I was speedily deleted by User:Weirdoactor. Wikipedia is uncensored and all opinions are allowed.  Just because you don't like another's opinion on a discussion page doesn't give you the right to delete it.  As mentioned in the note on your talkpage, go play in the Sandbox. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NewStew (talk • contribs) 13:42, 14 December 2006  (UTC)
 * Comment - Your vote was not deleted because of a disagreement with it; it was deleted because of the rude manner in which you expressed it. I would note that the user who deleted your comment actually agrees with you about deleting the article. I'll see your Sandbox and raise you No Personal Attacks. - Eron Talk 18:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment As near as I can tell, User:Silverleaf56 is the subject of the article, i.e. Andrew Jesse Brown. In his contributions list, there's this image, which includes an edit summary: Took photo myself after performance, fair use because I have released it into the public domain. Silverleaf was also the creator of the Andrew Jesse Brown article, if you look at the page history. Take that information for what you will. --Gladlyplaid 17:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.