Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Manley


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. I would note that the failure to qualify under one inclusion guideline (like WP:ATH) does not mean that a person cannot qualify under another, such as the GNG. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  20:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Andrew Manley

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High School football player. A lot of state awards, but does not seem to pass WP:ATH, as high school is not the highest amateur level in American football. Greedyhalibut (talk) 18:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  18:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong delete High school players are not even close to being notable.-- Giants27 (  t  |  c  |  r  |  s  ) 18:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sidebar says it all: "No notable achievements" &mdash;Wrathchild (talk) 19:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The sidebar is simply a default response in the infobox that should be fixed. The article does reference and list notable achievements, including 2009 HIAA Combine Offensive MVP, 2008 Honolulu Star-Bulletin Offensive Player of the Year, and 2008 Honolulu Advertiser Co-Offensive Player of the Year. Cbl62 (talk) 00:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Clearly meets the general notability guidelines. See google news results: . ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep It seems odd that there is a presumption of non-notability, regardless of how many independent and reliable sources have in depth coverage, if the person is a high school athlete. I question "inherent non-notability" as much as "inherent notability." The special provisions for athletes in the guideline WP:N do not absolutely forbid articles if the high school athlete has enough coverage to clearly satisfy WP:N for any other person. See, , Edison (talk) 19:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong delete as per WP:ATH - I don't see notability for anything else or a whole pile of articles about him Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:45, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Statim per everyone else. -- Riotrocket8676  You gotta problem with that? 00:56, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per the sources found by ChildofMidnight and Edison. Yes, this high school athlete fails WP:ATHLETE, but as Edison pointed out above, failing that guideline doesn't automatically mean that Manley fails WP:N. The multiple independent reliable sources provided show that Manley passes the general notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 04:19, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep While there are relatively few high school football players who meet notability standards, Manley has received several major awards.  And the non-trivial press coverage seems to establish notability under general standards. Cbl62 (talk) 00:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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