Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew McMaster (songwriter)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:43, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Andrew McMaster (songwriter)

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Provided sources are insufficient, sheetmusic.com, discogs, youtube do not show how this artist meets WP:MUSIC. A redirect to the band page might be more appropriate but even then I'm not sure this is anyone more important then a competent professional. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 22:06, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 22:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Please note that the wiki article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Using_sheet_music_sources, was used for referencing the sheet music at sheetmusic.com. Also, references for the actual printed sheet music were included for the two UK top 20 songs for which McMaster was both the sole composer and lyricist, which would appear to satisfy the general notability criteria when allied with his other writing credits with Ducks Deluxe, James Dewar and Anita Harris. The Discogs references were included as they show actual pictures of the vinyl labels, which show the songwriter's name and confirm the printed info about the writer provided by Discogs. The sole YouTube reference is only used to verify McMaster's first single, which if considered a weak reference could certainly be removed. Genspeak (talk) 23:51, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You are aware that was a proposal and not a passed guideline? Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

As far as I can see, it still is a proposal but the talk consensus does seem to favour it. Genspeak (talk) 07:24, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - for full disclosure, I'm the editor who approved this article for the mainspace through the AfC process. WP:COMPOSER states as its first criteria: "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition." McMasters has at least 2 works which meet this criteria, "Airport" and "Dancing the Night Away". And there are two others who might be notable: "Forget About You" and "Tenement Steps". Discogs establishes his relationship to two of the notable songs, and BMI is pretty authoritative. Onel 5969  TT me 22:31, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep He meets the criteria for WP:COMPOSER, and as Onel 5969  said, he has written two if not four notable songs.JSFarman (talk) 20:24, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:28, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:12, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - a notable artist with multiple charting songs written. Well referenced article. Andrew McMaster (songwriter) seems too limiting to me as he was a member of the Motors. The naming policies of Wikipedia would favour the known name Andy McMaster rather than the birth name Andrew McMaster. I would suggest change to Andy noting that Andy McMaster (musician) instead which is now a redirect and can be used for main article for the artist. werldwayd (talk) 17:59, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as per reasons outlined by Onel 5969 . I also agree with the suggestion made by werldwayd for changing the name of the article. And here is a Rolling Stone reference to support this: 20 Rock Albums Rolling Stone Loved in the 1970s That You Never Heard. Drchriswilliams (talk) 00:15, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


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