Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Rivkin (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 08:51, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Andrew Rivkin
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Does not seem to be notable enough for inclusion. Brianga (talk) 21:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I've watched this article for a while; it's cleary an autobiography or a very close COI, although neither of those is absolute grounds for deletion. The story of CryptoLogic Inc does seem notable; his leadership of other companies seems less so. So I'm uncertain as to notability. I can say for sure that this page keeps getting POV promotional rewrites, some of which I've tried to edit.


 * See also, another manager at the same company. He's even less notable. Hairhorn (talk) 21:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * ... I didn't notice the previous AfD when I wrote the above. Can't this be speedy deleted as recreation of a deleted page? Hairhorn (talk) 21:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually didn't notice it either. It probably can, but I'll let another admin do that. Brianga (talk) 21:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * There are some GNews hits, but nothing that could be called a reliable source. Add that to the fact that this was previously deleted by discussion, and I'd say delete. Quantumobserver (talk) 22:08, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems promotional, no meaningful sources - Vartanza (talk) 23:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * article author's comment below pasted to bottom of page by me; please don't "top post", it makes the discussion very hard to follow. Hairhorn (talk) 21:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * hey there, I am the main contributor of this article. I am kind of new at writing wikipedia articles but I have been a very close follower of both Cryptologic and Fun Technologies and find mr.rivkin deeply interesting (Crypto basically invented the software that allows for online gambling and he did found the company) . With that said, I would really appreciate your tips and advice inasmuch as writing this article and writing articles for consumption on wikipedia is concerned as I would really like to keep on writing about companies and people that I find interesting and worthy of wikipedia. I have spent considerable time writing this article and I think it is unfair to delete the page based on your arguments.Rhalliworth53 talk
 * I think everyone is open to hearing an argument for keeping the article. But you haven't really made one yet. You'll have to find some independent sources to establish his notability. If you need help, you can try checking the guidelines on notability, notability of individuals, notability of companies and verifiability.  Hairhorn (talk) 21:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:12, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. Company/product may be notable, but this person is not. Drmies (talk) 00:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable --rogerd (talk) 02:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.