Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Wamsley


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The result was Keep and move to Murder of Rick and Suzanna Wamsley; consensus seems pretty clear that notability is found here, but not in the context of this individual perpetrator, rather the conspiracy and event as a whole. I'll perform the move and briefly reframe the article at this point, but it could benefit from further attention. ~ mazca  talk 18:19, 10 May 2018 (UTC) ~  mazca  talk 18:19, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Andrew Wamsley

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This was deleted in 2011 and I think consensus was just flat-out ignored. Two months after being deleted, the article was re-created with info on the co-conspirators. This article, however, is not about them. Wamsley is only known for one event and that event may not even be notable in itself. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:59, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 22:01, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Delete, or keep and rename?
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a crime news reporting source, it is not a newspaper. Not everyone who gets a death sentence is notable, let alone everone who is charged with a crime that in their jurisdiction could lead to the death sentence. That is the only standard that could make Wamsley notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep but rename to Murder of Rick and Suzanna Wamsley (which is what this article covers in any event) - there were 3 PERPs here, and this particular one is possibly not the most noteworthy one. This was widely covered when it broke. It is still being reported as a notable example of parent murder - CNBC 2018, death sentencing was a topic covered in 2005 as well as in 2011 and 2012 following an appeal process that lasted a few years - which is also covered in this book. The crime and Andrew Wamsley were the subject of a full-length 272 page book (by St. Martin's Press - not self published) - The Good Son: A True Story of Greed, Manipulation, and Cold-Blooded Murder.Icewhiz (talk) 13:29, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and move to Murder of Rick and Suzanna Wamsley as per arguments, sources brought by User:Icewhiz.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:13, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename to Murder of Rick and Suzanna Wamsley per above power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 17:34, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:32, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename as per Icewhiz Nosebagbear (talk) 12:37, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


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