Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Wines


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  00:46, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Andrew Wines

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Local municipal councillor fails WP:NPOL. UPDATE: also appears to have been created by a user with a WP:COI (User:CnrWines) Park3r (talk) 04:53, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Australia. Park3r (talk) 04:53, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Strong delete fails WP:NPOL. First 2 sources merely mention him in 1 line and is not meeting WP:SIGCOV for him. The other sources merely confirm he is a councillor.LibStar (talk) 05:00, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Do some Googling before casting these votes please. Jack4576 (talk) 11:08, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep: found SIGCOV simply by Googling his name. WP:BEFORE please. Jack4576 (talk) 11:06, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * link (1), (2), (3), plus, there is a courier mail article referencing a specific scandal involving him going on a Dubai trip during a natural disaster Jack4576 (talk) 11:07, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:09, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: per @Jack4576. The article needs improving, but there appears to be a lot of non-trivial coverage online. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment I looked at those sources from Jack4576, and all of them seem to be routine coverage from a local paper and they don't surmount WP:MILL. Could you post the online links that show non-trivial coverage? The first 3 pages on Google are dominated by the councillors own social media and other directory-type sites, and the Google News are just about various council proceedings. Park3r (talk)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete Fails WP:MILL and any non run of the mill coverage is local coverage. Nagol0929 (talk) 12:39, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete BLP, fails GNG and BIO. Sources in article and above as it has been stated are WP:MILL local news, nothing that has SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth from IS RS. The sources shown by the keep votes afer their exhaustive BEFORE showed nothing that meets SIGCOV and the claim that the Dubai trip may have SIGCOV is SOURCESMUSTEXIST, and even if found it makes this a 1E. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV).  // Timothy :: talk  06:47, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: I'm seeing nothing but routine, scanty coverage and namedrops.   Ravenswing     01:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


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