Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Zeleno


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Deleted by Athaenara per CSD G7. (non-admin closure) ƒirefly  ( t · c ) 13:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Andrew Zeleno

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PROD concern was Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:BIO; a search did not yield any WP:RS covering him in depth and none cited in the article.

Removed with comment ''I don't agree with deletion of the article. The guy is famous audio engineering teacher. Feedspot puts him on the second place in the world (cited). Almost 2 million views on youtube and 40,000 subscribers (cited). He is contributed to audio engineering field. Ukrainian gov awarded him (the company he was working for is cited). Also, he works with world famous software manufcturers like Solid State Logic, Izotope, Sonarworks (cited). He made a clip for famous game (cited).''

This comment fails to address the fact that none of the sources used are WP:RS (reliable sources).

Source assessment to follow. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:40, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Source assessment - subject comprehensively fails WP:GNG. References either do not mention him or are self-published. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:46, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Doitthebestyoucandoit (talk) 23:06, 14 March 2021 (UTC)1) It's his company he's been working for: https://ks.suspilne.media/ and http://comin.kmu.gov.ua/control/en/index So official Ukrainian government website and TV channel website are not reliable sources? Also the link from Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Committee_for_Television_and_Radio-broadcasting_(Ukraine) 2) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClAFwSFgHGe788IpuUF9Iig/videos His Youtube channel where you can see yourself 40,000 subscribers and you can examine 1.7M views on it is not reliable source? 3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMbKwJbUcMM Also citation to his invented technique where he explains this technique himself? How demonstrating the technique by the author can't be a reliable source? 4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ9QhP26bJg&t=2s The known clip which is uploaded on his youtube channel which was clarified with Yoututbe copyright policy showing what he did for world-famous game company. Demonstrating his own work on Youtube is not reliable source? 5) https://blog.feedspot.com/audio_engineering_youtube_channels/ You can see yourself on what place Feedspot places him in their rating. the 2nd place in the world among Youtube Audio Engineering channels. How Feedspot itself can't be a reliable source when we say what place Feedspot gave him?
 * See WP:IS; someone's own YouTube channel does not count towards WP:GNG, which requires that Zeleno has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. His own YouTube channel fails this because its his own work. Feedspot is a blog and is therefore not reliable; see WP:RS and WP:UGC; the latter of which clearly says that user-generated content is unacceptable. The Ukrainian government website has no mention of him nor do many of the other sources. How can we say that he has significant coverage when he isn't even mentioned? Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:19, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Doitthebestyoucandoit (talk) 23:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)someone's own YouTube channel does not count towards - OMG., My article just says: he has a youtube channel and I show this channel. There is no independent sources which shows "This guy trully has his youtube channel". What's the problem with mentioning that the guy has his youtube channel especially it's in high demand? Maybe you intentionally attacking him and that's why you go against? Feedspot is not reliable? I didn't say anything weird here. I just said that Feedspot puts him high and proved it with the link. You are crazy to ask some other reliable source to prove that Feedspot puts him somewhere. Feedspot itself shows where they puts him. And this is citation I used. "The Ukrainian government website has no mention of him nor do many of the other sources" OMG find at least one TV station which will mention their personal like audio editors on their website. You clearly proved that Wikipedia is a weird place to be mentioned. I delete my article and never come back to wikipedia


 * Delete per nom. Lack of WP:RELIABLE sources supporting notability. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:11, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Doitthebestyoucandoit (talk) 00:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)I am the author of this article and I say delete it. Stop discussing. I confirm the intention to delete it

Doitthebestyoucandoit (talk) 03:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)As the only one who wrote this article I blanked it as my good will. I request of deletion of this article. Citation mistakes. Let's delete it.


 * Personally, I think it should be delete.--Alcremie (talk) 12:30, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Doitthebestyoucandoit (talk) 15:01, 15 March 2021 (UTC) As the only one who wrote this article I requested of deletion of this article. Citation mistakes.


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