Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Zeller (American football)


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 22:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Andrew Zeller (American football)

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Fails WP:NGRIDIRON, as he never played a game in the NFL or another fully-professional American football league. Honorable Mention All-Big Ten and Academic All-Big Ten are not major enough awards to pass WP:NCOLLATH. is decent coverage that would go towards GNG. Everything else I can find is either in unreliable sources, or WP:MILL notices of signings/waivers/recruiting. Fails WP:GNG, too. Hog Farm Bacon 22:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: New arguments arising, let's give it some more time.
 * Delete undrafted free agents in the NFL is a term that tends to refer to someone who is on a practice squad or under consideration to play for an NFL team but has not yet achieved that goal. Generally we find that such athletes only create "transactional-type" press in the fan blogs or occasional news printings (player X was cut, player Y is sent to this team, ...).  Naturally, sometimes such an athlete will "make the team" and then become notable for this encyclopedia, but that has not seemed to happen yet for this player.  Notability could be achieved based on the collegiate career, but that doesn't seem to be the case either.  No prejudice to re-create if the athlete makes the team or otherwise becomes notable.--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The two sources of note for me are the Washington Post and Baltimore Sun articles presented. Nice articles, even feature articles in detail--more than statistics.  And one is about the "tropic bowl" and the other about his attempt into NFL.  Each on their own, not really enough... but that's some detailed coverage.  I'm certainly striking my delete position but I'm now just unsure.  Would be nice to give this a chance in user space and work on it some more, maybe targeted research from an enthusiastic editor will turn up another article or two.--Paul McDonald (talk) 00:52, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete . Fails WP:GNG, WP:NCOLLATH, WP:NGRIDIRON. College football offensive linemen rarely receive GNG-level coverage. In this case, I'm finding more coverage than for a typical lineman (principally in The Baltimore Sun) but not the quantum required by GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 01:43, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets GNG per     . Good amount of coverage for his college career. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 00:03, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * looks interesting, I will investigate and reconsider.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 08:05, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete never actually played in a pro game. His college career does not fit any reasonably limiting coverage and notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:35, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete for failing WP:NGRIDIRON. I took a look at the articles linked by EDDY but I don't see anything in his college career beyond his being an NFL-hopeful. In any case, it fails WP:SUSTAINED as the coverage only appeared in his senior year. Blue Riband► 20:33, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:NGRIDIRON and I'm not seeing significant coverage in the sources provided by Editorofthewiki. First source is a transaction write-up, second one shows he was invited to a college all-star game with the only biographical details as "he was invited to the game", "he will play for the National team in the game", and "he started 32 games at right guard in his career". Third source is a transcript from an interview he had with a reporter in a series for all Maryland football commits for that season. Fourth source is from SBNation, a sports blog. Fifth source is the best one of them all, as pointed out by the nominator, and I would count that as one good article to count towards significant coverage. Sixth source is behind a paywall so I cannot speak to its significance, but even if it's as good as the York Daily Record article, it's still just not enough for me to pass it on GNG. Eagles 24/7 (C)  16:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


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