Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andri Guðjohnsen


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The result was keep. Consensus is that there is enough for GNG. Fenix down (talk) 07:20, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Andri Guðjohnsen

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PROD contested by article creator, who has a long history of creating non-notable articles. This player fails WP:NFOOTBALL (no professional appearances) and WP:GNG (no significant coverage, just routine transfer news or minor pieces about him and his famous dad. Notability is not inherited. GiantSnowman 14:17, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete a non-notable footballer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:30, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Clearly reaches GNG with non-routine sources such as this one or this other one. And most of the sources focusing on his transfer also cover several other aspect of the player's career. Furthermore WP:INHERITED is about not using the argument "he's the son of **** so he is notable", it does not invalidate sources focused on the subject of the article that also mention his origins. For example the Goal reference clearly covers the subject of the player far beyond the fact he is the son of someone. --Coco (talk) 18:11, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep passes WP:GNG per Coco. Alvaldi (talk) 18:04, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Coco, appears to have notability independent of his father. JohnmgKing (talk) 14:07, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TOOSOON and WP:FOOTY.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:59, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but as I saw you write this comment without any kind of further explanation on another AfD, I was wondering: is WP:GNG completely irrelevant to you? --Coco (talk) 21:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it matters, but so does WP:TOOSOON, WP:FOOTY, and WP:CRYSTALBALL. If he retired tomorrow, would it make sense for him to have a page? Every youth footballer in elite academies has transfer rumours or interviews, but I don't think it makes sense for them to have a page until they professionally debut.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:23, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Here is a litteral quote from WP:FOOTYN: "Should a person fail to meet these additional criteria, they may still be notable under Notability". As for WP:TOOSOON, it only applies to articles that do not meet notability requirement and are not "verifiable in independent secondary reliable sources" (aka GNG). As for WP:CRYSTALBALL, it really does not apply here, as the article is mainly about what the player has already done (at youth club and international level), not about some hypothetical future career.
 * So as per shown above, one cannot talk about the notability of an article ignoring the GNG, and as a matter of fact you even end up talking about sources such as "transfer rumours or interviews". But if you do so you must have the intellectual honesty of talking about the quality of the actual sources. Are those only routine? Do they give a significant coverage of the subject?
 * And about the question "if its career stoped etc.", do you think that such an article with a lot of good quality sources would be really less worthy of being on the encyclopedia than one about a player with only one little match played and only primary sources? --Coco (talk) 18:47, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete he has not made a single senior appearance yet. REDMAN 2019  ( talk ) 14:35, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:TOOSOON, not played in a WP:FPL yet. MYS 77 ✉  22:15, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 13:56, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, clearly meets WP:GNG, having received far more coverage than the majority of our WP:NFOOTY-passing articles. Regularly a headline in the sports section of the major Icelandic newspaper (some of these are game descriptions, but they're not routine transfer news). There is no WP:CRYSTALBALL material here, and the above voters haven't explained how they think the subject doesn't meet WP:GNG, even WP:NFOOTY mentions  – Thjarkur (talk) 14:24, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - I can see just enough to scrape a GNG pass Spiderone  10:58, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  10:59, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Weak keep - per above, subject clearly fails WP:NFOOTY, but there seems to be enough coverage to pass WP:GNG. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 22:32, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep fails WP:NFOOTY but passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:47, 5 September 2020 (UTC)


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