Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andriy Lyubka


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The unrebutted copyvio argument dooms the page in its current state. No prejudice against recreation in a copyvio-free form. T. Canens (talk) 17:04, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Andriy Lyubka

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Page created by with one (1) edit to his credit. I have no doubt, that is was the subject himself. Because the only source of info (i.e. the linked reference) is his own webpage at "Andriy Lyubka - official website". On 23 December 2016, his sock‎ puppet with two (2) edits, removed both tags added by User:Piotrus, including  and  without a word of explanation. I could not think of a clearer case of WP:YOURSELF.  Poeticbent  talk 04:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete, per WP:YOURSELF, WP:VERIFY and WP:NOTABILITY.  Poeticbent  talk 04:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment. No sources added or that I can find that would help him pass WP:ARTIST. SPA sock displays vanity/promotional behavioral pattern, not cool. But I do see some indication on notability on the Polish Internet: Short description of an event he attended, Polish regional radio interview, Polish national radio interview, Article in Polish about him on some Ukrainian website (not sure of reliablity), Interview in a regional/niche Polish website, Interview in a regional Polish newspaper. There is more, nothing great, but without even looking at (Belo)Russian / Ukrainian sources there seem to be borderline notability due to coverage. I am not sure whether to lean keep or delete without seeing what people can dig from Cyrillic sources. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  10:41, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * In the Polish Wikipedia the bio of Andriy Lyubka was created by SPA User:83.9.106.171 whose only contribution to Wikipedia was his own bio. The user has absolutely no interest in helping the project, neither here, nor anywhere else.  Poeticbent  talk 14:21, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree it is a vanity autobio, but being selfish and using Wikipedia to promote oneself doesn't make one not notable. In other words, if he is notable, it doesn't matter who wrote his bio and for what reasons. Numerous Nazis may be totally despicable, and that doesn't mean we go around deleting their bios :> --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 16:07, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete a non-notable poet.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:20, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment prose writer and translator, too.Xx236 (talk) 11:40, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:55, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:55, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:55, 3 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment Andrew Lyubka has had an article on the ukrainian wik since 2008, see article history here, it was created by an ip, (that ip address has around 70 diverse looking edits on the ukwik over about two years) the ukraine article appears to have a no. of sources, not sure about the reliablity of them, also not sure about the relevance of an article on the polish wik to this person (please forgive my ignorance of this, but happy to receive the big T if anyone is so inclined). Coolabahapple (talk) 16:04, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * In the Russian Wikipedia, the article was started by a user in good standing.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment He was interviewed by the BBC Ukraine. There are thousands of Urainian news articles mentioning his name. One of his books was reviewed by Sevodnya, a newspaper with the circulation of about 700,000 (second largest Ukrainian newspaper according to our list of Ukrainian newspapers). This debate needs competent editors fluent in Ukrainian to assess the sources instead of examining the intentions of the creator. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:38, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, seems to be notable , , --Ymblanter (talk) 20:21, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * NowI see that it is copyvio from presumably Google-translated. This means we need to delete the article first, and then it can be recreated based on reliable sources--Ymblanter (talk) 08:21, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. We need someone who not only knows Ukrainian, but can also separate the wheat from the chaff. Lyubka writes opinion pieces for the web, that's why his name is mentioned repeatedly, with countless reprints between different websites. But I looked at several of those opinion pieces in Google translate, and I was not impressed. They are not real essays in traditional sense. They are never referenced. They are just opinion pieces. Lyubka is all over the place with his focus, from Poroshenko to Putin and back. An American web journalist like him would probably not have an article in Wikipedia. Maybe he works for BBC Ukraine, I don't know. His only book of poetry is advertised there with an invitation to purchase. I haven't found yet a single critical review of his poetry by a seasoned professional.  Poeticbent  talk 02:10, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not think you would find someone better than me, but best luck. --Ymblanter (talk) 08:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment He has published a number of books, some of them translated into several languages, into Polish by Bohdan Zadura. Xx236 (talk) 11:37, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks:) Coolabahapple (talk) 17:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Than go ahead, and improve the article please. As it stands, it is deletable; with the only source being his own personal website coupled with strong suspicion of WP:YOURSELF, and nothing else to confirm anything at all. Thanks,  Poeticbent  talk 18:57, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I have linked 4 texts in Polish in Talk:Andriy Lyubka .Xx236 (talk) 10:35, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:42, 7 January 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 09:20, 14 January 2017 (UTC)


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