Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Cobb (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 00:21, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Andy Cobb
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Fails WP:BIO. References seem to be press-releases. Little coverage.  scope_creep Talk  18:29, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  19:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  19:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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I am unsure why this page is again in the AfD. An administrator already removed it from AfD once. This article meets the requirements and the notability and if it is found to not meet those then other pages within the same scope should be deleted such as Johnny Herrera(racing driver) as they have raced the same series and Cobb has more sources than Herrera. Cobb is a licensed World of Outlaws driver and that licensing can be located within the World of Outlaws administrative filings. World of Outlaws is the highest level of dirt sprint car racing one can reach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RacingFan247 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Lacks independent coverage to pass WP:NBIO. (including "This page has been added to search engine indexes" in an article is a good way to make one's WP:PROMO intentions known...) 1292simon (talk) 07:46, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Can anyone advise on the comparison to the other racing pages such as Johnny Herrera (racing driver) that I continue to use as an example and the references of coverage he has? Almost 100 percent of racing coverage for sprint cars in America is what appears to be a press release layout. However sprint car and midget magazine along with speed sport news are independent sources and the primary sources of American sprint car and open wheel racing media. Secondly a video reel of the TV series showing the credits for his acting contributions can’t be used on here as a reference. Thirdly as for the section that was added referencing search engine indexes was added after reviewing the articles for creation section talking about indexing pages for search engines. This is my first article creation so I am trying to address everything I can prior to creating anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RacingFan247 (talk • contribs) 21:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 15:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * "Other racing pages" are not relevant. WP:OTHERSTUFF. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:04, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:NACTOR, WP:NCREATIVE, everything under WP:NSPORTS and WP:GNG. I'm not seeing a single independent source that is anything more than transactional about his racing career. 75.174.138.211 (talk) 15:54, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

(An outside article reference Has been added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RacingFan247 (talk • contribs) 14:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That is a blog dude and fails WP:SPIP.   scope_creep Talk  14:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. We keep articles on sportspeople, and racing drivers, if they compete in a top-level competition for their sport, and WoO is the top level for sprint cars...except Cobb has never raced n WoO ompetition. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:03, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

I am not understanding how you can say Cobb has never competing in WoO competition. There is an article from the WoO that is about Cobb and Danny Lasoski competing in the WoO in 2014. He is also a current WoO driver as far as licensing from the WoO Dirtcar sanction is concerned. A copy of that license can be provided if someone wants it.
 * (post closing comment for future clarity) A license does not confer notability. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:54, 20 November 2020 (UTC)


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