Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Mosier


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus for deletion, default to keep. Sandstein (talk) 07:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Andy Mosier

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I am proposing this article for deletion as the subject is not, in the Wiki sense, notable. Minimal notability is asserted, and there are no sources given for what is asserted. The article claims an award (without any details) for a film called "Insanicycle" which gets no google hits. In other words, fails the Notability test of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Regards Springnuts (talk) 11:53, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. STORMTRACKER   94  12:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. Unsourced OR.  Cirt (talk) 14:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC).
 * Keep Variety of sources are on the internet, including http://lambiek.net/artists/m/mosier_andy.htm and http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Currents/Content?oid=54239 the latter contains the artist's interview —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cartoon-Fan (talk • contribs) 03:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Article now shows references for claims of notability; non-sourced "Insanicycle" reference has been removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Killyouse (talk • contribs) 01:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * comment on references. Not convinced.  Three references are given, only two of which mention the subject of the article.  The ref from the Tuscan weekly, where he was a staff member certainly fails the "independent of the subject" test.  That leaves one - [] - but this has no sources and may even be derivative from the Wikipedia article! I don't dismiss it entirely,  but I am not convinced that we have a notable cartoonist here, maybe "only" a cartoonist.  Springnuts (talk) 10:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * comment on references. I am new to Wikipedia and apologize if I am going about this incorrectly. I was acquainted with Andy Mosier in high school, and recall him winning an award for his film "Insanicycle". I removed the reference because it was not verifiable (i.e. nothing turned up in a Google search). I sent an email to CINE, the organization that issues the Cine Eagle Award and received confirmation today that Andy Mosier did indeed win this award in 1977. The letter is from Betsy Walters, Director of Competitions at CINE and reads in part "I can confirm that Andy Mosier received a CINE Eagle Award in 1977 for "Insanicycle." The film won in the Amateur-Youth division, and Mr. Mosier was credited as producer, director, screenwriter, editor, camera and sound." I believe the Cine Eagle Award is an example of a "significant recognized award" which further supports Andy Mosier's notability per the criteria listed for notable people. Google is an especially imperfect guage for notable accomplishments happening decades ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Killyouse (talk • contribs) 23:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, based on the Lambiek entry. Hiding T 17:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletions.  -- Hiding T 17:57, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, based on references above, he appears to be a notable and established comic artist. Lankiveil (talk) 00:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC).


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.