Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angelika Willing


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  23:59, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Angelika Willing

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Fails WP:GNG, lack of significant coverage in RS. Not sure if belltower.news is a RS for blp articles but even if so there's only about 1 paragraph of coverage. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:21, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete. I agree with each and every one of Buidhe's objections to this article's existence, and would add that it's been extremely poorly translated into English, likely from a German-language original.  It's probably not a machine translation because even translation algorithms  that we know to be problematic for this language pair, such as Google Translate, would have caught "puphlished" and "Philosoph".  The translation also contains false friends such as "facist theory" (for "fascist theory").  Because of this, I think the author's proficiency with English is so poor that we can't even be sure the article says what the author meant it to say.  This combines with the allegations of far right sympathies to create content that I think is highly problematic on BLP grounds.If kept we should look for the original and see if we can satisfy ourselves that the text is copyleft or used with permission.—S Marshall T/C 00:36, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * User:S Marshall, for more context on the editor's behavior see Sockpuppet investigations/Friedjof/Archive. They are banned on dewiki for various issues, and based on past behavior, it's likely this is based on a deleted article over there but as far as I can tell de:Angelika Willing never existed. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  00:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * any opinion on the link, if any, to User:Bestof2022? Fram (talk) 13:13, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I notice similar phrasing and spelling idiosyncracies in Karlheinz Weißmann.—S Marshall T/C 13:19, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Possibly not, Friedjof/Outdoorbro's MO is to translate articles that dewiki won't let him publish, i.e. ones that have been deleted there. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:49, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Why I wrote the articel about Angelika Willing: She is one of the very view intellectuals of far-right NPD. She has a proper University education and puplished in a lot of right-wing media. The relevant-regulations are different from German Wikipedia, so there is no articel about her. If you think Angelika Willing is not relevant as author, delete the articel. A wrd to the source: Belltower is the name of an project of Amadeu-Antonio-Foundation, which is serious institution and so the informations are. --Outdoor-Bro (talk) 17:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: if the article had been created at the right title, Angelika Willig instead of Angelika Willing, then people could find both the sources (if any) and the actual fate of the same article on dewiki (yep, deleted as copyvio). But of course, if you are incapable enough to not only machine translate your article, but even your article title (Willig is the German for "willing"...), then it is time to stop dealing with individual articles and to block the involved editor(s) instead, certainly in light of earlier issues and issues at another wiki. Fram (talk) 13:19, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ... and that makes this article a lightly obfuscated copyvio of an article that the blacklist won't let me link, but the url is de.metapedia.org/wiki/Willig%2C_Angelika, from the right-wing "encyclopaedia" Metapedia. I looked at it briefly and couldn't see any reason to think Metapedia's content is licenced under the GFDL or the CC-BY-SA.—S Marshall T/C 17:49, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but that is not the case. I did not take anything from Metapedia (which is an right-wing site). Please make a decision, if you want to keep the articel - than I put more effort in - or if you going to delete it. Thanks. --Outdoor-Bro (talk) 18:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I find that doubtful.
 * You:"Up from 1994 to 1996 and from 2002 to 2004 willing puphlished texts in the main newspaper of German Neue Rechte „Junge Freiheit“."
 * Metapedia:"Von 1994 bis 1998 and von 2002 bis 2004 betreute Willig das Kulturressort der Wochenzeitung Junge Freiheit."
 * belltower.news:"1994–1996 und 2002–2004 schrieb Willig für die neurechte Wochenzeitung „Junge Freiheit“"
 * You:"Up from 2002 she also writing for „Nation und Europa“ and for NPD-newspaper „Deutsche Stimme“ (DS)."
 * Metapedia:"Seit ihrem Ausscheiden bei der JF publiziert sie auch in der Monatszeitschrift Nation und Europa und schrieb für die NPD-Parteizeitung Deutsche Stimme (DS)"
 * belltower.news:"ab 2002 publiziert Willig auch in der rechtsextremen Monatszeitschrift „Nation und Europa“ und schreibt für die NPD-Parteizeitung „Deutsche Stimme“ (DS)."
 * You:"Willing puphlished in a number of far right publications like Criticon, Münchener Freiheit and "eigentümlich frei"."
 * Metapedia:"Sie schrieb u. a. auch für die Junge Freiheit, Criticon, Münchener Freiheit und eigentümlich frei. "
 * belltower.news:"Sie schrieb u.a. auch für die Junge Freiheit, Criticon, Münchener Freiheit und eigentümlich frei."
 * Uncle G (talk) 11:47, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I find her mentioned in books and articles about the German right-wing but I don't find anything substantial about her. Even the metaverse article does not have what we would consider sufficient sources. Lamona (talk) 23:37, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - I don't see notability on the page as written, it is an orphan and in this case I am nervous about using Belltower as a reliable source. Gusfriend (talk) 11:59, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG. StAnselm (talk) 23:29, 5 March 2022 (UTC)


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