Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angelina Valentine (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Strong consensus to delete. The one keep voter who argued that there was a notable award here is encouraged to discuss this elsewhere; in the AfD there is no consensus to interpret the award as granting notability. Drmies (talk) 03:03, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Angelina Valentine
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Subject fails PORNBIO as the awards listed are not significant and well known. Sufficient RS coverage is not available to meet GNG. Previous AfD at the end of 2014 closed as no consensus, and I believe it's time revisit. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:20, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete, per WP:BLP, as an article about a living person with no reliable sources. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 10:09, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom's accurate arguments and per my analysis in the initial AFD. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006.  (talk) 13:34, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete delete - doesn't appear to be notable per WP:PORNBIO and lacks sufficient reliable source coverage beyond porn websites and the subject's own social media pages. PoetryFan (talk) 18:57, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - Non notable porn actress, Can't find any evidence of notability, Fails PORNBIO & GNG. (Again no idea why I !voted Keep on the first one but clearly fails PB & GNG. ) – Davey 2010 Talk 22:28, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable pronographic perfromer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:30, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Unique feature for performing with transsexual partners, still an extremely rare act under mainstream porn performers (she is mainstream). Plus personal XRCO Award, which is, only the AVN Award being higher in the world, fully notable in every (personal) category. --SamWinchester000 (talk) 19:14, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 23:09, 4 September 2016 (UTC) Keep - meets WP:PORNBIO. Subtropical -man  talk  (en-2)  21:50, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete/Redirect to XRCO_Award. The XRCO Deep_Throat_Award is not a notable award.  XRCO Awards collectively are notable, but notability does not permeate downwards.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:59, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * There is actually no higher quality award in that industry. XRCO makes no promotion (other than AVN), makes only 5 nominations per category (other than AVN), is not influenced by porn producers but only voted by acknowledged porn journalists (who are XRCO members which is not so easy to reach), only lets attend porn insiders at the show (no promotion again) and gives nominated performers the unique possibility to control who has voted for whom in order to achieve the transparency which the early awards from the 70's and 80's never had. Although being in no way promotional and held quite closed from the media, the XRCO Awards are considered the 2nd highest honour a pornographic actor could get, only the AVN Awards (with much less quality) being higher.
 * They are pretty much like the opposite of the AVN Awards and have different categories, which are not as inflated as AVN's and therefore can be taken more serious in my opinion. That's why I think that an XRCO Award means a lot. They also often have different winners than AVN and XBIZ (which is a sign for their independence) and e. g. have more male categories, as well, which is again a sign of more respectability and seriousness. Sometimes the XRCO might give out a special honour like that Deep Throat Award or e. g. when the members voted to induct Asia Carrera into the Hall of Fame, although this is normally the "Historian's" decision. Given the quality of the XRCO Awards, they're generally a big sign of notability. --SamWinchester000 (talk) 01:22, 7 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails GNG. Carrite (talk) 02:55, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


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