Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Animal happiness certification


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to American Humane Certified. For the time being. This is probably a notable subject, but this article isn't. Black Kite (talk) 20:36, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Animal happiness certification

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I can not find on the internet any form of certification of animal happiness. Natureium (talk) 23:08, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Here you have one certification of the Humane Farm Animal Care and here you can read on Wikipedia about the American Humane Certified′s work. --Igallards7 (talk) 23:14, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. KCVelaga (talk) 23:23, 16 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep if it can be improved, but move to Animal welfare certification or Animal welfare certification schemes per WP:COMMONNAME. This is an important topic in animal use in food systems, and these schemes have been studied extensively in terms of their effectiveness, meaningfulness, effect on consumer behavior, and so on. Sample sources include:
 * Formal animal-based welfare assessment in UK certification schemes
 * Consumer Willingness to Pay for Livestock Credence Attribute Claim Verification
 * FourViolas (talk) 13:52, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The term "happiness" was born from the concept of "happy hens" or "happy eggs" (see references on the article), but because it also appeared a certification for "happy cows", in general terms is "animal happiness", the title includes a general concept and not a specific certificate.--Igallards7 (talk) 17:51, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There is already a technical term for these programs: "animal welfare certifications" or "animal welfare certification schemes". See the sources above. "Animal happiness certification" is a neologism not widely used by reliable sources. The policy in these cases is COMMONNAME, which instructs us to use the established term. FourViolas (talk) 19:53, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Clarifying my !vote: while there is definitely an encyclopedic article to write on this topic using sources such as those I listed above, the current stub—clearly written in good faith, but cited to two sources failing WP:INDEPENDENT and an opinion piece—has enough WP:NPOV, WP:OR, and WP:V issues that I would unfortunately have to support a delete without prejudice to recreation under WP:TNT, if it's not rewritten according to better sources. FourViolas (talk) 19:53, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The term "happiness" was born from the concept of "happy hens" or "happy eggs" (see references on the article), but because it also appeared a certification for "happy cows", in general terms is "animal happiness", the title includes a general concept and not a specific certificate.--Igallards7 (talk) 17:51, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There is already a technical term for these programs: "animal welfare certifications" or "animal welfare certification schemes". See the sources above. "Animal happiness certification" is a neologism not widely used by reliable sources. The policy in these cases is COMMONNAME, which instructs us to use the established term. FourViolas (talk) 19:53, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Clarifying my !vote: while there is definitely an encyclopedic article to write on this topic using sources such as those I listed above, the current stub—clearly written in good faith, but cited to two sources failing WP:INDEPENDENT and an opinion piece—has enough WP:NPOV, WP:OR, and WP:V issues that I would unfortunately have to support a delete without prejudice to recreation under WP:TNT, if it's not rewritten according to better sources. FourViolas (talk) 19:53, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: People arguing to merge should be more explicit about where it should be merged to.
 * Rename, merge or delete. It appears that animal welfare certification generally is a notable topic. This article fails to connect the threads, and if simply renamed would not be a valid encyclopedia article, but the topic is nonetheless worthy of inclusion. If someone expands during the AfD period, it would be worth renaming to a more common descriptor. Bongo  matic  15:26, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge or Rename: Not completely convinced that it currently merits a whole indivicual article, but agree with the editor Bongomatic that animal welfare certification generally is a notable topic. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 00:03, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 07:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar  04:57, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: Sounds like a neologism to me.  Nha Trang  Allons! 19:28, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.