Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Animated Hero Classics (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Nest Family Entertainment. Clear consensus below the article shouldn't be retained. However, no consensus about whether to merge or not, so splitting down the middle and redirecting. If anyone wants to merge using their own editorial judgement, they're welcome to. Daniel (talk) 00:41, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Animated Hero Classics
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Non-notable TV series. Dronebogus (talk) 10:01, 26 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  11:17, 2 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:31, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * If someone could add https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animated_Stories_from_the_Bible and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animated_Stories_from_the_New_Testament to this AfD that’d be great, as they’re just as bad and bundle-noms are incredibly tedious for me. Dronebogus (talk) 10:05, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - the bundling is complete Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:58, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Molto benne! Dronebogus (talk) 11:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * KEEP There is a previous AfD for this bundle and the consensus was keep based on the authors attempt to establish notability. The producers of this content are still distributing it today, and there are numerous mentions of awards on their website. https://nestlearning.com/pages/awards-endorsements -- I don't see a reason to disbelieve their claims, especially since those awards were likely given in a period between the 1980s-early 2000s where digital preservation has been somewhat lacking. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I think that’s basically just WP:PRIMARY without reliable 3rd-party evidence. The last AfD was also a pretty terrible close because it was based on the author’s attempt to prove notability, not an actual confirmation—- basically an appeal to pity. Dronebogus (talk) 14:27, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No reason to apologize, you're right. In roughly 5 minutes I was unable to find anything other than a google book mention of their company which was only a fragment and required a purchase to view. I'm assuming good faith on the primary source, and given the era in which that company produced their material, I'm not shocked at being unable to find any reliable sources. However, this doesn't mean it's a non-notable animated series. Given that the company and their original owners still exist today and sells the content is alone notable. The articles could certainly use some clean up and citations, but I doubt those will ever materialize unless someone goes to the painstaking research of digging through microfilm. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The company existing does not make the shows notable. It doesn’t even make the company notable. Notability is not inherited. Dronebogus (talk) 15:55, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Selectively Merge to Nest Family Entertainment The previous AfD was almost fifteen years ago giving it little to no precedential value. That it was considered improved enough to demonstrate notability when a bunch of IMDB links were added is good evidence of just how the perception of notability has changed in that time. The only references in the article are to a pair of subject matter encyclopedias and there seems to be no evidence available that this series had any kind of impact. The supposed list of awards and endorsements are essentially meaningless as none of them are recognized as important in the field of childhood education or entertainment.  Eggishorn  (talk) (contrib) 21:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I’d recommend just redirecting them. If this closes as “no consensus” I’m going to do that since there’s been no improvement in forever and the one recent “keep” vote wasn’t willing to do the level of research required to prove notability. Not sure it’s worth the trouble anyway since the series doesn’t appear to have had much of an impact. Dronebogus (talk) 07:02, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak delete or redirect/merge to a topic suggested above. My BEFORE only found a brief mention in a Chinese academic paper at (not open access, see snippet in Google Scholar). I think we have a ton of movie/TV cruft to clean up - not every media of those types is notable, unfortunately. Ping me if better sources are found. SOFTDELETE is preferable is possible (redirect with preserving history). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  10:31, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Most of the article has no citations, and there is no real effort to cover the series' reception or impact. I would tag it as a hoax article, as even ther episode list has no citations. Dimadick (talk) 11:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The series exists, a simple image search proves that. I also vaguely recall I might’ve watched it as a kid. So at least it’s not a hoax. Dronebogus (talk) 15:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG. Avilich (talk) 17:49, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet the WP:GNG threshold. MrsSnoozyTurtle 06:09, 19 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.