Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AnimeSuki (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 05:06, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

AnimeSuki
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Unnotable fansub distribution website that fails WP:WEB and WP:N. It has been tagged for notability since March with change. It has not been changed since the last AfD which ended in no consensus, despite a clean up tag being added since then (June). It does not have significant coverage in multiple third-party reliable sources. The few sources in the article (and mentioned in the last AfD), only not it as one of MANY fansub sites that have been hit with C&D letters from various companies, pointing to the notability (and notariety) of fansubs and is already covered in fansub. The Fortune magazine mention from the last AfD is not significant, it is a single sentence. Again, this is not a notable website. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 00:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.  -- --  AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 00:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: As noted in the previous AfD, ANN repeatedly covers the site in its news reporting, and they're pretty darn close to being the paper of record for this industry. And while the Fortune mention is only in passing, that passing is to call it "the largest database of BitTorrent anime shows," which is a statement that the site's notable from well outside the industry. Without looking for further mentions, just the information on hand strongly suggests notability. As for the lack of changes, well, WP:NOEFFORT. For the moment, no !vote pending searches for further mentions. —Quasirandom (talk) 01:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep: Please give it a rest. This website is massively popular, has received plenty of attention (and infamy), and is one of the most viewed anime sites on the web.  AnimeSuki is no less notable than Anime News Network.  Not to mention Anime Web Turnpike, Animexx, MyAnimeList, and Nausicaa.net.  And yes, I am aware of WP: OTHERCRAPEXISTS. ^_~--24.129.100.84 (talk) 01:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Popularity doesn't have anything to do with it. And, FYI, MyAnimeList was deleted via AfD already; someone recreated it without reason. CSDed. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:49, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Most likely MAL themselves. I don't know the reason for deletion, but I know they once stated on their homepage that they created the article. I also agree that MAL is by no means a notable site, and I'm a happy user of their service. Dandy Sephy (talk) 03:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Be my guest, since the creator of this one is the same one whose created it before along with the other deleted MAL stuff. Exact same article even. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 04:38, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Then why do you use said argument? MuZemike  ( talk ) 02:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Instead of arguing points here, I'm going to list a group of potential sources and let others decide if they constitute significant coverage.




 * I am also registering a hit on --Farix (Talk) 01:46, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Most of those ANN reports, however, are about BitTorrenting in general, not solely about Anime Suki. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:49, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * But they always mention AnimeSuki in their coverage, meaning that the website is of note. --Farix (Talk) 01:53, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: An Amazon search also reveals that AnimeSuki is mentioned in the book A Dictionary of Proverbs.--24.129.100.84 (talk) 02:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * But they do show constant coverage of the site. And some are exclusively about the site, not just BitTorrenting in general. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:23, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Alexa rank of 3062 76.66.195.63 (talk) 08:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete as lacking significant coverage in independent third party sources. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:01, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   Sandstein   16:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep : Added notability statement “…the largest database of BitTorrent anime shows” along with proper inline cite and referenced, also provided here Fortune – “It's... Profitmón!” - DANIEL ROTH – December 12, 2005. In other words –Notability verified by a third party – creditable – verifiable and reliable source.  What more can we ask for :-).  Thanks ShoesssS Talk 17:19, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * A SINGLE source with a ONE LINE mention does NOT equal significant coverage nor does it equal notability and considering that report is from 2005, there is no telling if it is even accurate anymore. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 20:11, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Notability is not temporary]. Even if this site _was once_ the largest such site, as long as this is verifiable then it is notable. [[User:JulesH|JulesH (talk) 17:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Evidently notable. Colonel Warden (talk) 08:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notability may not be established beyond a shadow of a doubt (witness nomination), but breadth of coverage suggests that site is indeed notable. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:23, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 21:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


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