Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ankita Tiwana


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:19, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Ankita Tiwana

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Fails WP:NGOLF and WP:GNG; the subject has only been substantively mentioned in one reliable source. Inks.LWC (talk) 23:27, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Inks.LWC (talk) 23:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Inks.LWC (talk) 23:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. All the citations mentioned in the page come from reliable news sites and mention either about herself or her achievements. Golf is not a famous sport in India, and only a handful of professional golfers are at that level. So too many citations even for notable golfers are not available, not to mention the local language problem because of which Google can't index them (Even most of the Indian english news articles are not indexed by Google). You can use this tool to find out more citations in Indian news about her. Here are some of the local language citations in the news which I found out about her:, , , , , . Note: I'm the creator of the page. Mr RD (talk) 08:12, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - one thing I forgot to mention in my original statement was that pretty much all of the coverage in reliable sources (and even that is not much) falls under WP:ROUTINE; all but one of the reliable sources was just covering a golf event, and that broader coverage was the reason for mentioning Tiwana. Inks.LWC (talk) 17:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep Two sources in article meet WP:RS as of August 11 2015, other sources possible here, she meets the WP:GNG.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 22:57, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - the issue is not that there is a lack of reliable sources that cover her; the issue is that there is only one source that covers her with actual depth (the The Hindu article). Everything else is just routine coverage of minor sporting events. Inks.LWC (talk) 14:53, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Is this routine coverage? The entire article is about her.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is routine coverage. And the entire article is not about her; it also talks about Vani Kapoor's performance and birdie on a hole, the performance of a few other golfers, a golfer's hole-in-one, and the leaderboard statistics. Inks.LWC (talk) 17:27, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Nonsense. The article's headline includes her; the main photo is her. No way is that "routine". And I suppose this article is simply more "routine" too? It is about her, her name is in the title of the article, in one of India's leading broadsheet newspapers.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC) Me going to the grocery store is routine; her competing in professional golf tournaments, and winning, not so.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, that source is routine as well. She had a one-shot advantage on the next-to-last day of the 2013 Hero Women’s Pro Tour.  That's routine coverage of a sports event without any depth about the subject.  Her name is in the article title because titles attract more attention for newspapers than if every title for the golf event was "The following are the results from yesterday's golf match". Inks.LWC (talk) 19:19, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * As for your comment about going to the grocery store versus coverage of a sporting event, your opinion is simply not based in policy. Read WP:ROUTINE: Per Wikipedia policy, routine news coverage of such things as announcements, sports, and tabloid journalism are not sufficient basis for an article.  Coverage of her competing in golf tournaments is routine.  If she had won one of those professional golf tournaments and received coverage about winning, then there would be notability, but she has not actually won any professional tournaments; the most she has done was won a single leg of the Hero Tour in 2012.  At no time has she actually won a tour (the best she has ever done was 4th).  Sure, she has led individual legs of the tour at times, but she didn't win.  And that's the entire point of WP:ROUTINE—people aren't notable just because they had a good sports day that got them brief, trivial coverage. Inks.LWC (talk) 19:36, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The idea of the "routine" rule is that news which is planned in advance -- like the dates or venue of an upcoming sports match, a wedding announcement of an upcoming wedding, etc -- these things should not be used as evidence of notability. But competing in high-level golf tournaments, in which major Indian newspapers consider what she does as real sports news, covering her in-depth, how she plays, what her score is -- these things are not routine at all.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 23:01, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - passes WP:NGOLF # 3 (she won the June 2014 tournament of the Hero Women's Professional Golf Tour which is the top national tier of Indian professional golf). Inks.LWC is right that most of the refs is routine coverage, but there are at least two lengthy in-depth reports on her. Kraxler (talk) 15:31, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


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